It's really just one bad apple.
Unfortunately the apple is the police and it's everywhere and armed.
George Floyd Protest – police brutality videos on Twitter
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#12Most posts on this subject keep getting pushed off of the front page by mods. It's pretty sad to watch, especially with the number of posts about coronavirus. They're both major issues, but one is nerdier than the other so it gets to stay.
In fairness, it's got a lot of upvotes, and there's really no words that can convey what this shows.
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#13This is in the same vein as the cross word puzzle database mentioned yesterday.
"When you get the data into a nice, clean, dense form, stuff just falls out of it" - Saul Pwanson
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#14There's also a Github repo [1] which was posted a while ago containing various instances of police brutality as well as other sites using said data to better illustrate the problem.
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#15I know politics isn't the usual HN topic, but I think this goes beyond politics at this point. Until I saw this list, I had no idea how out of control this situation has gotten here. I'm saddened for my country and hope that this can be a turning point for all of us.
One of the threads that was eye-opening for me was Greg Doucette's (a lawyer in North Carolina among other things) ongoing Twitter thread with Pics/Video of police brutality as it relates to peaceful protesters/bystanders. It's currently at 500+ instances of police brutality. https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1272306977872453634
There's a tab in the spreadsheet just from that thread.
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#16I know politics isn't the usual HN topic, but I think this goes beyond politics at this point. Until I saw this list, I had no idea how out of control this situation has gotten here. I'm saddened for my country and hope that this can be a turning point for all of us.
Just be a bit cautious with lists like this: Last time lists like this were posted, most of the links were false accusations, or just someone claiming something, with no way to know the truth. (I spent some time trying to verify until I realized there were far more false accusations than true, and then I give it up as pointless.)
Of course even one instance of brutality is too much, but take numbers like this which a huge grain of salt.
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#17One related issue, is that right now, in COVID times, unnecessary arrests, jailing, busing, etc. is in some abstract sense an application of potentially lethal force -- since enclosed spaces and close contact makes COVID transmission significantly more likely.
It seems important to understand how much that is happening and where. If that data, in combination with protest size/type data is available, it can help us better understand if protests or police are actually impacting COVID transmission (if either).
If we don't have that data available as case numbers come in, it makes the narrative of blaming protesters much more likely to stick, even if it turns out to be inaccurate later, and e.g. the primary cause is unnecessary police actions.
Is anyone doing this? (Does anyone want to start if not?)
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#18Try building an app around it with glideapps.com for easier consumption by journalists, activists, etc., I tried to add it to my drive so I could build it but your settings will not allow me to do it
You can understand why a document like this would need to be pretty locked down I hope. While you might think an app is required, I'm pretty sure just about anyone on a computer can read a spreadsheet. Also, I'd rather not need an app to present the data in a spreadsheet in a manner the developer thinks is useful. Just present the data, let the viewer consume it as they see fit.
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#19I know politics isn't the usual HN topic, but I think this goes beyond politics at this point. Until I saw this list, I had no idea how out of control this situation has gotten here. I'm saddened for my country and hope that this can be a turning point for all of us.
Just be a bit cautious with lists like this: Last time lists like this were posted, most of the links were false accusations, or just someone claiming something, with no way to know the truth. (I spent some time trying to verify until I realized there were far more false accusations than true, and then I give it up as pointless.) Of course even one instance of brutality is too much, but take numbers like this which a…
Similarly, don't view every list as likely full of false accusations because one you checked was full of false accusations. This one seems meticulously crafted.
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#20One related issue, is that right now, in COVID times, unnecessary arrests, jailing, busing, etc. is in some abstract sense an application of potentially lethal force -- since enclosed spaces and close contact makes COVID transmission significantly more likely. It seems important to understand how much that is happening and where. If that data, in combination with protest size/type data is available, it can help us be…
Where Covid rules apply:
Home, Banks, Retail, Restaurants, Hospitals
Yes
Jails, Police station
No
Can you sue police if get sick ?