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Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chrome 85 address bar

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Re: Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chrome 85 address bar

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I would also add that, to personal use, Firefox has some features that seem half-baked. Like: 1 - Selecting multiple tabs and saving to bookmarks: you can't add to an existing folder without creating a subfolder. 2 - Add keywords to bookmarks: no way to filter bookmarks that have keywords. Also, when typing on the address bar, the keyword doesn't get highlighted or anything 3 - can't add a custom search engine. You h…

> 3 - can't add a custom search engine. You have to add its extension, if available. Or add as a bookmark with a keyword, but then you won't be able to see a list of all search engines... As a full time, happy Firefox user, this annoys me to no end, increasingly so as there are more and more competing search engines that I want to try. I’m pretty sure that you used to be able to add arbitrary search engines too (by s…

> more and more competing search engines that I want to try

Not only that, but on Chrome I have Amazon, Youtube, Reddit, all setup as search engines. For reddit, besides 'rdt' for general search, I also added keywords for searching inside /r/anime, /books, /ps4, and a few other subs I occasionally search.

I also think they used to have this, as Chrome still has. But no idea why they changed it.

Re: Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chrome 85 address bar

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I assume the goal is to make sure that people never remember the URL and always use Google to get anywhere. Most people probably already do, but maybe increasing their number from 80% to 90% is still worth it. If this is indeed the real motivation, the next obvious target would be bookmarks. What can be done about them? Replace the bookmarked URLs by Google queries? It would be an interesting functionality if Google…

I assume that crack smoking ux designers made this decision

The ones who justified this:

https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=24349

Re: Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chrome 85 address bar

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The click/edit to show full url is a good and intuitive design. A lot of websites just have terribly designed urls, with tons of obscure nesting paths and ?x=y flags that users don't care about. Here's what I got from searching the word "duck" in chrome search bar:

    https://www.google.com/search?q=duck&oq=duck&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i59j0l3j46j0j69i65.864j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
why would I care about the op, aps, sourceid and ie? If I really have to know the aqs value I can just simply click and have it.

Re: Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chrome 85 address bar

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> AMP is a Google content proxying technology, and Google isn't generally understood to be a "sketchy site." The whole idea of AMP pages is sketchy by default, as it's Google taking content from websites run by news media outlets and hosting it on their own servers so they have even more control over user-tracking. In the long term, this has the potential to further centralize the Internet, something the Internet was…

Again, people concerned over this risk scenario should be switching to another browser regardless of what it does to the URL bar, right? I doubt we're going to find many users who's thought process runs "I'm really concerned about the long-term risk of Google building a dystopian information warehousing monoculture, but I was still going to use chrome. But now that they're changing the UI to, I assume, support their…

>people concerned over this risk scenario should be switching to another browser

IMHO it's our duty as technical users to advocate for a more private, open and de-centralized web for everyone.... We should especially be doing it on behalf of the users who don't understand the long term implications of Google's (anti-) features.

'Just switch to another browser if you don't like it' is not a compelling argument.

Re: Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chrome 85 address bar

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Google is "sketchy" for any non-American who wishes not to be subject to the whims of American law and espionage.

Wouldn't Mozilla also fit that description?

Since Mozilla doesn't collect search, browsing, location, and email history — No, it's not the same. It's not even close.

Re: Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chrome 85 address bar

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A large part of the reason for this confusion might be Google's long-standing efforts to blur the line between search and plain URL-based navigation, starting with integrating search into the location field in Chrome – Firefox and Safari[1] used to separate them, which makes the concepts clearer and avoids sending URLs and (local history) searches to the search provider unintentionally. [1] http://toastytech.com/guis…

I remember this being the magical thing together with less wasted vertical space that made me switch to Chrome back in the day, it was (and still is) so simple! Always had the search field taking up precious space in Firefox but never really using it because it was a different mental route, like this is smart but why am I not using it? I think it is down to having to consciously decide to search before starting to ty…

Looking at that issue of consciously deciding whether to search from another angle, if I haven't decided yet, why would I want to inform Google of what I'm typing? Perhaps it's a private address of a private server with private information in the query string.

In any case, if I do decide to search, the search field is just a ctrl+k away, so the additional convenience of combining the fields never seemed that great to me. (But for Google, of course, it's a very convenient property of this design that everything the user types happens to end up being sent to Google.)

Re: Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chrome 85 address bar

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Safari has been this way since 2014. I've never seen any pushback on Apple doing it over the past six years . It's genuinely a benefit for the vast, vast majority of users, where the only important piece of information really is the domain name, to check which site you're actually on. And for more info, you can just click. Copying the URL becomes no more difficult. The URL path beyond the domain is as useful to most…

I’m in favor of full URL, but frankly didn’t notice until just now that I haven’t enabled Safari’s Show full website address preference.

Re: Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chrome 85 address bar

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If their goal is really to help detect fraudulent sites (the sorts of google.com.notahacker.tk), they can just show the domain in a more prominent way -- they're already deemphasizing the part of the URL after the domain name anyway. This is clearly not their motive. What Google is trying to do here is to drift the web from its most iconic components: the URL. This is the biggest threat to the web that we loved for s…

> What Google is trying to do here is to drift the web from its most iconic components: the URL. This is the biggest threat to the web that we loved for so many years.

Safari has hidden the full URL since 2014. For the vast majority of users, the full URL is just noise.

Re: Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chrome 85 address bar

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Safari has been this way since 2014. I've never seen any pushback on Apple doing it over the past six years . It's genuinely a benefit for the vast, vast majority of users, where the only important piece of information really is the domain name, to check which site you're actually on. And for more info, you can just click. Copying the URL becomes no more difficult. The URL path beyond the domain is as useful to most…

But why can't this be a toggle or user setting like in Safari? Why is it a 1-true-google-way of doing things when clearly there are users who want to keep it (even if its just web developers)?
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