git = "a foolish or worthless person"
Wonder if some people want to push for a rename. I won't be surprised
GitHub to replace “master” with alternative term to avoid slavery references
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Re: GitHub to replace “master” with alternative term to avoid slavery references
#122"Don’t you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought? In the end we shall make thoughtcrime literally impossible, because there will be no words in which to express it." George Orwell, 1984
If you think modifying language with the aim of including more kinds of thinking is the same as the aim of Newspeak, you need to re-read 1984. You missed something.
You may assume that I read it thoroughly. The first time was in 1984. The more I read it, the more things I find that are already reality.
Re: GitHub to replace “master” with alternative term to avoid slavery references
#123Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Without the racist background, how does one know which list does which? By basic knowledge of the English language. Terms like "black market", "black death", "black tuesday", etc. etc. By the expressions like "looking at things in black and white". It is a part of language, it has nothing to do with race. These colors are used in the same way in other languages of other countries that don't even have racial slavery…
I think where I see a difference is that there's no 'white market', 'white death' and 'white Tuesday'. Whereas with black/white list there's a clear separation that even may not be meant as racist, I can definitely see it coming across that way. Black and white thinking is often talking in terms of extremes, which neither being inherently 'better' than the other. It's not for me to say whether the whole of American c…
White magic?
Re: GitHub to replace “master” with alternative term to avoid slavery references
#124I always understood a VCS “master” branch to be in reference to “master” records / the “mastering” process of audio mixing, which in turn is a use of a sense of the verb “to master” akin to “to master one’s courage”—not conveying dominance, but rather the reaching of an apex in skill. If you’re in the market for a replacement that keeps the metaphorical power, though, I might suggest having a “mother” branch. “Mother…
Mother is no longer political correct word either. The correct word is now "parent 1" (or maybe "parent 2", it's so confusing...)
https://www.yahoo.com/news/france-replace-words-mother-fathe...
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-mpps-approve-...
Re: GitHub to replace “master” with alternative term to avoid slavery references
#125As if blacks were the only people who were slaves. You think white people were never slaves? Jews? Arabs? Chinese?
Indentured servants, serfs like those from Russia etc. The only society/culture to put an end to slavery has been the Western ideals.
Slavery is still practiced in the United States.
Re: GitHub to replace “master” with alternative term to avoid slavery references
#126Amazing how americans destroy themselves with self censorship. It is like watching a building on fire.
Re: GitHub to replace “master” with alternative term to avoid slavery references
#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you think modifying language with the aim of including more kinds of thinking is the same as the aim of Newspeak, you need to re-read 1984. You missed something.
You may assume that I read it thoroughly. The first time was in 1984. The more I read it, the more things I find that are already reality.
I hope you give the words of people proposing improvements to language as much consideration. They aren't all mindless screamers on Twitter or people looking to remove all character from communication.
Re: GitHub to replace “master” with alternative term to avoid slavery references
#128Earlier quoted context omitted.
Some etymology: blacklist (n.) also black-list, "list of persons who have incurred suspicion, earned punishment, or are for any reason deemed objectionable by the makers and users of the list," 1610s, from black (adj.), here indicative of disgrace, censure, punishment (a sense attested from 1590s, in black book) + list (n.1). Specifically of employers' list of workers considered troublesome (usually for union activit…
To be 100% honest, when I first read the changes to whitelist/blacklist I thought, "Well, that's pretty stupid" but after reading your comment and a few others, it does actually seem quite racist. Like someone else mentioned, without the racist connotations I wouldn't know whether black or white list was the 'good' one. Language evolves constantly, always has and always will do. I'm not going to get hung up on things…
As argued elsewhere in this thread, there is plausible evidence that the name of the „master“ branch in git is directly derived from the bitkeeper concept of „master“ and „slave“ repositories: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2019-May/...
Re: GitHub to replace “master” with alternative term to avoid slavery references
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Re: GitHub to replace “master” with alternative term to avoid slavery references
#130Earlier quoted context omitted.
You may assume that I read it thoroughly. The first time was in 1984. The more I read it, the more things I find that are already reality.
I hope you give the words of people proposing improvements to language as much consideration. They aren't all mindless screamers on Twitter or people looking to remove all character from communication.
Is it possible that you have trouble with other opinions?