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Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chrome 85 address bar

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Re: Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chrome 85 address bar

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Post by toyg »

kjakm wrote: post #324
CyanBird wrote: post #202

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I would love to get comments from Chrome users I just could not live without firefox and being unable to share tabs/links from anywhere in my phone to my desktop and or laptop

As a Safari user it boggles my mind that Firefox's send to device feature is considered good at all. All my Safari tabs are automatically synced to my phone at all times with no intervention needed from me. It's one of the few things keeping me from switching to Firefox actually.

> All my Safari tabs are automatically synced to my phone at all times

I hate the hell out of that. My phone is my phone, my laptop is my laptop, just leave them alone.

Re: Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chrome 85 address bar

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Post by shadowgovt »

superkuh wrote: post #518
shadowgovt wrote: post #496

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I'm actually not thinking about the phone form factor at all. A shorter URL bar in the desktop allows for to take up less horizontal space, which leaves more room for chrome extensions. Also, "use a real computer" is a pretty elitist attitude that misses Google's goals overall. Google is not targeting exclusively users that have desktop machines with multiple cores and graphics accelerator cards. They want to provide…

> misses Google's goals overall. Oh, I'm not missing that. Google's software offerings are now primarily designed for bad computers with bad UI, bad network, and bad energy storage. Because people love those crappy devices and most use them primarily. We both agree. >A shorter URL bar in the desktop allows for to take up less horizontal space, Which really doesn't matter if you're on a desktop computer with an actual…

Agree to disagree, because my primary device is a multi-core desktop with a curved monitor over two feet long and I still think the URL bar takes up too much horizontal space in my browser top bar.

Re: Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chrome 85 address bar

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Post by shashwatblack »

ceejayoz wrote: post #494
skissane wrote: post #210

The other day, our 7 year old told me that [ is 5B and ] is 5D. I was quite impressed that he knew this, and I asked him how he knew it. He told me it was from reading the address bar in Roblox. Needlessly hiding technical details from kids is going to limit their learning.

Is that a meaningful piece of learning, though? I’ve been doing webdev since the 1990s and still look up character codes if I need them.

Sure, but it's the curiosity about how things work under the hood that matters. If he sees [ being replaced with %5B,he'll ask why it does that. And that leads to learning.

Re: Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chrome 85 address bar

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Post by krzyk »

amluto wrote: post #338
krzyk wrote: post #306

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Why would anyone be offended by blacklist? Would they be also offended by the color black? Or maybe dark mode, that is getting popular? Or maybe offended by the fact that most pages on the web have light/white theme? This is getting ridiculous (together with github ditching the name "master" - https://twitter.com/natfriedman/status/1271253144442253312 ), maybe it is the result of too much working from home recently -…

There is a qualitative difference between your examples and “blacklist”. Dark mode is about color. The color black is a color. Light mode is a color’s brightness. A widely used white background is a color. I don’t think any reasonable person objects to using terms about color to refer to colors. Black objects are black, red objects are red, etc. But “blacklist” is entirely different. “Blacklist” uses a color term to…

But it wouldn't ever cross my mind that black list is in any way related to people with dark skin color.

I don't know how others feel about it, for me connecting blacklist to those is quite racist.

What would you say about Black Friday?

Or white Christmas?

Re: Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chrome 85 address bar

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Post by Jyaif »

shadowgovt wrote: post #512
anewdirection wrote: post #406

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Thats admirable, but you are a minority within a minority.

Honestly, if most "advanced" users turn off the features that Google uses to gather data to improve UX, it's strong signal UX isn't important enough to "advanced" users for Google to optimize for it.

But they don't have that signal...

Re: Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chrome 85 address bar

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Post by shadowgovt »

Jyaif wrote: post #525
shadowgovt wrote: post #512

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Honestly, if most "advanced" users turn off the features that Google uses to gather data to improve UX, it's strong signal UX isn't important enough to "advanced" users for Google to optimize for it.

But they don't have that signal...

Missing data leaves its own wake. Google has numbers to extrapolate how many turn off usage reporting. They lack automated signal in how the users use the tools.

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Post by Wistar »

RHSeeger wrote: post #431
chiefsucker wrote: post #222

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What the heck? A regular user doesn’t understand or care what the technical difference between a “regular” page and AMP is. I wouldn’t call this ignorance per se.

This is patently false. I talk to non-tech "regular" users all the time that despise AMP.

Count me among them.

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Post by read_if_gay_ »

shadowgovt wrote: post #496
superkuh wrote: post #484

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To improve browser experience all you have to do is use a computer that doesn't suck. The fact that your primary browser is on a tiny phone display is a problem with phones, not with browsers. Browser for phones can evolve to match the disabled nature of their device's but lets hope such gimpings don't filter back into actual desktop computers.

I'm actually not thinking about the phone form factor at all. A shorter URL bar in the desktop allows for to take up less horizontal space, which leaves more room for chrome extensions. Also, "use a real computer" is a pretty elitist attitude that misses Google's goals overall. Google is not targeting exclusively users that have desktop machines with multiple cores and graphics accelerator cards. They want to provide…

> A shorter URL bar in the desktop allows for to take up less horizontal space, which leaves more room for chrome extensions.

Are you seriously claiming you need all (or even just more than like 10%) of your 1920+ pixels of screen width for your Chrome extensions?

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