As if blacks were the only people who were slaves.
You think white people were never slaves?
Jews? Arabs? Chinese?
GitHub to replace “master” with alternative term to avoid slavery references
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Re: GitHub to replace “master” with alternative term to avoid slavery references
#22Previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23500093
Re: GitHub to replace “master” with alternative term to avoid slavery references
#23> but also terms like "blacklist" and "whitelist" for "allow list" and "deny/exclude list." Seriously?
Allow/deny listing makes a lot more sense to me than white/black listing
Why does it make more sense? Blacklist is used also as a verb, and I don't think "denylist" could be used as such. You could say "add to the denylist" but I don't think this is sensible.
Re: GitHub to replace “master” with alternative term to avoid slavery references
#24Wait, git by default creates master branch.
So if you push master to Github, how is this going to work ?
Is it not better to make the changes to Git ?
Ask Linus Torvald in Finland.
Re: GitHub to replace “master” with alternative term to avoid slavery references
#25.
Re: GitHub to replace “master” with alternative term to avoid slavery references
#26Good one. Nearly had me for a moment.
Re: GitHub to replace “master” with alternative term to avoid slavery references
#27> but also terms like "blacklist" and "whitelist" for "allow list" and "deny/exclude list." Seriously?
Without the racist background, how does one know which list does which? The new names actually describe what they do. The reason it may seem ridiculous is that racism is very, very deep in American culture. The country's culture goes back hundreds of years and is still slowly working on being less so. Here's an example: https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2014/05/11/310708342...
what's the racist background?
Re: GitHub to replace “master” with alternative term to avoid slavery references
#28When they ask you what virtue signalling is, show them this.
It's not. This is more like a swear word. No one would expect that calling it the "fuck" branch would be OK. Just because more people are OK with "master" doesn't change the fact that it bothers other people who are just trying to code. This isn't hard to understand.
Re: GitHub to replace “master” with alternative term to avoid slavery references
#29> but also terms like "blacklist" and "whitelist" for "allow list" and "deny/exclude list." Seriously?
Some etymology:
blacklist (n.) also black-list, "list of persons who have incurred suspicion, earned punishment, or are for any reason deemed objectionable by the makers and users of the list," 1610s, from black (adj.), here indicative of disgrace, censure, punishment (a sense attested from 1590s, in black book) + list (n.1). Specifically of employers' list of workers considered troublesome (usually for union activity) is from 1884.
Re: GitHub to replace “master” with alternative term to avoid slavery references
#30It's not the words that hurt us it's the meaning and weight that we give them ... at this rate, soon, we won't be able to say anything and the lack of communication will deepen the divide.