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Is AT&T a Monopoly in the Making?

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Re: Is AT&T a Monopoly in the Making?

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My proudest accomplishment in law school was a research paper I wrote entitled "Anti-Antitrust: The Need for Antitrust Law Reform."

In that paper, I argued that antitrust law as applied today totally misses the point: the issue shouldn't be whether a company, otherwise satisfying the elements of a monopoly, is harming competitors, but whether a company is actually harming consumers. Put another way: who is complaining about the alleged anticompetitive tactics: competitors, or consumers?

If one studies all the big antitrust cases of the 20th century -- from Alcoa, to DuPont, to Microsoft -- a curious trend emerges: it was always those companies' competitors who took issue with seemingly anticompetitive tactics of the big evil "trusts," and rarely -- if ever -- was it the consumers themselves.

A great example of this is Microsoft in the 1990s: do any of you -- aside from our realm of early adopter computer savvy tech types -- genuinely remember any everyday computer users actually complaining that Windows came preinstalled with IE instead of Netscape? Were consumers actually harmed, were they actually suffering? No: the only "people" who had an issue with MS bundling IE with Windows -- frankly, a brilliant strategy -- were Microsoft's competitors, and not, in fact, MS's customers.

So my take on this ATT & T-mobile merger is simple: the investigation should not focus on whether ATT/T-mobile is a monopoly from competitors' points of view, but whether it is anticompetitive to the point of actually harming consumers, e.g., with higher prices, etc.

Frankly, a good example of a company that really deserves a DOJ investigation is Apple -- IFF customers start to actually complain, and not not just Apple's competitors' start to complain.

Put more simply: a DOJ investigation into whether a company is a monopoly should be based upon whether consumers -- not competitors -- are actually being harmed by the allegedly anticompetitive tactics of a "monopoly."

After all, a company could not become a monopoly without customers' support in the first place. So clearly they have done something right that customers appreciate.

A "monopoly" that is not causing harm to consumers, either directly or indirectly, is not necessarily so terrible a thing. In fact, as with Apple, it is often the case that consumers enjoy a net benefit from such a company.

Re: Is AT&T a Monopoly in the Making?

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You can only believe AT&T is a monopoly if you believe the future of voice and data is through cell towers. My guess is, it's probably not.

Are you referring to the analog TV spectrum? It seems likely the AT&T would try very hard to control that too.

Or is there other near-term transmission protocols that you expect to be viable?

Re: Is AT&T a Monopoly in the Making?

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No. It's a duopoly in the making. Sprint & Verizon are going to have to hook up next.

Who's the other GSM carrier? I'd like to take my bought-and-paid-for Nexus One and switch to them.

at&t is the other GSM carrier. If your lucky you might live in a place where you can get another regional carrier (U.S. Cellular, Virgin, etc) but odds are you'll still be stuck using at&t towers.

Re: Is AT&T a Monopoly in the Making?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thats one of the advantages you get when you wiretap the country.

I have a feeling your comment will get dismissed as irrelevant snark, but I have a sinking feeling it's much more accurate than anyone would like to admit. AT&T is pretty well in bed with the government, which gives it political cachet that Google can't dream of getting without wrecking its credibility.

Fully agree with you, this whole NSA wiretap business isn't some low level tech grunt and a low level bureaucrat. If someone at the FCC/FTC gets a call from whoever authorized wiretapping the nation they'll listen. And if they start screwing around with the merger they'll get a call from exactly that person.

If Eisenhower was scared of this cabal the FCC/FTC will fold like a house of cards.

"In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together."

Re: Is AT&T a Monopoly in the Making?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who's the other GSM carrier? I'd like to take my bought-and-paid-for Nexus One and switch to them.

at&t is the other GSM carrier. If your lucky you might live in a place where you can get another regional carrier (U.S. Cellular, Virgin, etc) but odds are you'll still be stuck using at&t towers.

I'm aware of that, which is why I'm asking why it would be a duopoly. at&t will have a monopoly on GSM celluar service, and I'm left without options.

They're saying that all T-Mobile 3G devices would need to be replaced as well ( http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9M3LNPO0 ) which means that my Nexus One is a $550 paperweight, since it won't be useful on any US carrier. I won't even be able to resell it to recoup some of the cost.

Re: Is AT&T a Monopoly in the Making?

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post #33

My proudest accomplishment in law school was a research paper I wrote entitled "Anti-Antitrust: The Need for Antitrust Law Reform." In that paper, I argued that antitrust law as applied today totally misses the point: the issue shouldn't be whether a company, otherwise satisfying the elements of a monopoly, is harming competitors, but whether a company is actually harming consumers. Put another way: who is complainin…

Well in this case I have a grudge against AT&T, specifically as a consumer. I don't like that they can get away absurd customer relations, and I think we need to check them. If Sprint goes away one day I'm not sure what I'll do.

EDIT: You know what I'll do? I'll say screw the paradigm, and start looking into VOIP, and other alternatives, and encouraging everybody else to do it so economies of scale work out.

Re: Is AT&T a Monopoly in the Making?

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Being a monopoly is the only way AT&T knows how to survive. Do you see them competing ever in a non-regulated field? Even the iPhone deal was a monopoly for 5 years....that's AT&T's DNA.

Do you really think it's a regulation issue? This is essentially the corporatist end game dream scenario. What major corporation would ever willingly sacrifice growth, market share & profit for the sustainability of a fair market & the wellbeing of the consumer?
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