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Intermittent fasting works – not only for weight loss but also for heart health

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Re: Intermittent fasting works – not only for weight loss but also for heart health

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Post by wmeredith »

thesz wrote: post #133
AnonC wrote: post #10

> How do you start? Agatston told me to start by skipping one meal a day, usually breakfast. (Yes, you can have black coffee in the morning, into which he adds ghee, a type of clarified butter, and coconut oil to reduce hunger pangs. It’s not your typical cup of coffee.) This may be ok to start with, though black coffee by itself has the ability to kill hunger without these crutches. Adding ghee or coconut oil in bla…

Please let me point you to https://leangains.com It has a ton of info - Martin Berkhan is really first person who popularized 16:8. One of advises there is that you can have black coffee with some milk, because milk is really low on calories. Also, from his site again, 10g of BCAA pre and postworkout does not change expression of fasting markers in blood. 10g of BCAA is ~40 calories. Put differently, it is equal to t…

> milk is really low on calories

Excuse me? One cup of milk has about the same as, or a lot more, calories than a cup of Coca-Cola. 149 for whole milk (91 for skim). 98 for the coke.

Re: Intermittent fasting works – not only for weight loss but also for heart health

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Post by humanlion87 »

doubleunplussed wrote: post #25
humanlion87 wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's an interesting point, never thought about it that way. Need to read more about it! If that is the case, then going back to IF might be a problem for me :). Currently I am back on 3 meals a day (12:12) and have eliminated certain types of foods that could cause acidity. And it's working for now.

Why not have breakfast but skip dinner? Eating close to bedtime can cause reflux and FWIW I had less reflux when I fasted after 4pm.

Like others mentioned below, logistics was the main issue. It was easier to skip breakfast because no one usually goes out for breakfast with friends/family. And almost no social activities/gatherings take place in the morning. So easier to maintain my own schedule in the mornings.

I agree with your point about eating late causing issues with digestions (which is something I learned recently while reading on this topic). I can remember that at least a few of my more severe reactions happened on days when I had a later dinner than usual.

I also read that our digestive system runs on a cycle and it usually needs to shut down during the night for maintenance mode. The later we eat, the more we put this cycle in disarray. And the older we are, more probable we get affected by this disruption. I am currently eating four hours before I go to bed. Next time around if and when I get back to trying to IF, I will aim to skip dinner rather than breakfast.

Re: Intermittent fasting works – not only for weight loss but also for heart health

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Post by blairbeckwith »

wmeredith wrote: post #141
thesz wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please let me point you to https://leangains.com It has a ton of info - Martin Berkhan is really first person who popularized 16:8. One of advises there is that you can have black coffee with some milk, because milk is really low on calories. Also, from his site again, 10g of BCAA pre and postworkout does not change expression of fasting markers in blood. 10g of BCAA is ~40 calories. Put differently, it is equal to t…

> milk is really low on calories Excuse me? One cup of milk has about the same as, or a lot more, calories than a cup of Coca-Cola. 149 for whole milk (91 for skim). 98 for the coke.

In the amounts people usually put in coffee, it is insignificant.

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Post by hliyan »

jasonlfunk wrote: post #22

My experience with IF has taught me that I’m much better at complete denial, rather than moderation. So if I want to reduce my caloric intake it works better for me to say No to everything for 16 hours and only eat for 8, then to try to just eat less and in moderation all day. It also applies to carb and other reductions. If I allow myself any bread, sweets, etc, I will eat too much. It’s easier for me to eat 0, then…

Yet another data point. Lot easier on will power reserves to fast at a stretch. All it takes is one nibble of something and I find myself returning to the tin for more.

Re: Intermittent fasting works – not only for weight loss but also for heart health

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Post by meesterdude »

brainzap wrote: post #92

I would prefer we would just call it "eat less"

that's entirely wrong though. Because it's not about cutting the calories of your meals in half - it's about having longer gaps between your caloric intake times, so your body goes into ketosis.

Re: Intermittent fasting works – not only for weight loss but also for heart health

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Post by [deleted] »

wmeredith wrote: post #141
thesz wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please let me point you to https://leangains.com It has a ton of info - Martin Berkhan is really first person who popularized 16:8. One of advises there is that you can have black coffee with some milk, because milk is really low on calories. Also, from his site again, 10g of BCAA pre and postworkout does not change expression of fasting markers in blood. 10g of BCAA is ~40 calories. Put differently, it is equal to t…

> milk is really low on calories Excuse me? One cup of milk has about the same as, or a lot more, calories than a cup of Coca-Cola. 149 for whole milk (91 for skim). 98 for the coke.

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Re: Intermittent fasting works – not only for weight loss but also for heart health

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Post by jedimastert »

wmeredith wrote: post #141
thesz wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please let me point you to https://leangains.com It has a ton of info - Martin Berkhan is really first person who popularized 16:8. One of advises there is that you can have black coffee with some milk, because milk is really low on calories. Also, from his site again, 10g of BCAA pre and postworkout does not change expression of fasting markers in blood. 10g of BCAA is ~40 calories. Put differently, it is equal to t…

> milk is really low on calories Excuse me? One cup of milk has about the same as, or a lot more, calories than a cup of Coca-Cola. 149 for whole milk (91 for skim). 98 for the coke.

The real question is how much milk are you putting in your coffee? Not a cup, I don't think. Although, full disclosure, I don't put milk in my coffee so I really wouldn't know...

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Post by vianin »

jasonlfunk wrote: post #22

My experience with IF has taught me that I’m much better at complete denial, rather than moderation. So if I want to reduce my caloric intake it works better for me to say No to everything for 16 hours and only eat for 8, then to try to just eat less and in moderation all day. It also applies to carb and other reductions. If I allow myself any bread, sweets, etc, I will eat too much. It’s easier for me to eat 0, then…

I work exactly the same way. People think I do things in extreme, but they don't understand that it's hard to things in moderation for some people.

Re: Intermittent fasting works – not only for weight loss but also for heart health

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Post by Wolfenstein98k »

It works for "systems" thinkers rather than "goals" thinkers. Easier to apply a system than try to reform every habit of eating constantly.

I suspect engineers and the like are disproportionately the former.

(See Scott Adams for a description of the systems/goals dichotomy).

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