Oh, great. So much progressiveness. An article that was discussed two years ago was quickly flagged today.
On Redis master-slave terminology (2018)
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#132Note that this is from 2018. I personally totally agree with the author. Anyone who chooses to be offended by words used in a totally different context is doing exactly that - choosing to be offended. If we keep going down this path of endless meaningless virtue signalling, where will we stop? Is the term "black hole" racist too? What about blackout? Etc, etc. No one really cares about these terms and it they do thei…
When you assert “nobody cares”, you’re just being a jerk. Lots of people do, you just don’t care. And your reduction ad absurdum argument is not convincing at all here. Yes it is possible to take this too far. Some people probably do take it too far. The concepts of light and dark are physical realities as in a black hole being the absence of reflected or emitted light. And they have long been used as metaphors for o…
> It’s an overt and completely unnecessary reference to slavery, and not even a particularly apt or useful analogy.
Is it not far more demeaning to act like anyone would crumble under the weight of mere words used in a technical context?
Should we drop the term clone because it causes the religious to dwell on evil scientists playing god?
Re: On Redis master-slave terminology (2018)
#133Note that this is from 2018. I personally totally agree with the author. Anyone who chooses to be offended by words used in a totally different context is doing exactly that - choosing to be offended. If we keep going down this path of endless meaningless virtue signalling, where will we stop? Is the term "black hole" racist too? What about blackout? Etc, etc. No one really cares about these terms and it they do thei…
I agree there's good reason to be skeptical about claims that certain language is inherently harmful, but let's be charitable and believe people are genuinely offended.
I have 2 questions: 1. Does offence in this case constitute harm? 2. What percentage of the population needs to be offended before it should be taken seriously? 51%? 10%? A single person? Perhaps the majority of people in an affected group?
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#135Earlier quoted context omitted.
Agreed. There is widespread discrimination in the media against politically incorrect people. Political incorrectness is part of my personal identity. I didn't choose to be born careless, it's a natural tendency that I have. I'm sorry I wasn't born as an easily offended person. I don't get offended by other people's words and I don't expect other people to be offended by my words either. Does that make me a bad perso…
I'm gonna give you the benefit of a response coz I don't think it's helpful to express disagreement through a downvote without attempting to explain why. > I don't get offended by other people's words and I don't expect other people to be offended by my words either. You shouldn't expect other people to feel the same way as you either. You can't decide how offended someone should be, as that's their own reaction to y…
> You shouldn't expect other people to feel the same way as you either. You can't decide how offended someone should be, as that's their own reaction to you. It might seem extreme or overboard to you, but how much do you know about them to judge that?
That's a difficult argument. It's totally fine to physically defend yourself if you're being attacked, and what constitutes an attack is obviously perfectly subjective, but we do very much have a common understanding of what it means. Whether someone feels attacked is of importance to themselves, but generally of little importance to how we judge their actions.
The same is true for being offended. While people don't control what they feel, I don't believe it's helpful to reach for complete relativism and say "all feelings are valid, therefore you must act a certain way". It's also not what anybody seems to actually believe. When I trollishly ask them to stop doing something because it offends me, they respond that I'm lying (which I usually am, but they cannot know, they cannot judge that, as you wrote). It seems "do it, because they feel offended" is only the motto when they are sympathetic to the person claiming to be offended. Moral arguments that are based on personal sympathy are pretty problematic.
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#136Why do majority of people here hearing slave thinks about black people? "Slave" comes from Latin where it initially meant a Slavic person. Northern African slave traders, Turkish jasyr slaves, slavery of eastern European women (Slavic and Jewish) sold to brothels in South America are also all but forgotten. Racism is disgusting in any form but limiting slavery to only America is also racist.
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#137Note that this is from 2018. I personally totally agree with the author. Anyone who chooses to be offended by words used in a totally different context is doing exactly that - choosing to be offended. If we keep going down this path of endless meaningless virtue signalling, where will we stop? Is the term "black hole" racist too? What about blackout? Etc, etc. No one really cares about these terms and it they do thei…
> Anyone who chooses to be offended by words used in a totally different context is doing exactly that - choosing to be offended.
It's even more absurd in these situations, since the ones "offended" are almost always whites who have nothing better to do than to stir up controversy.
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#138I suspect this is one of those topics that at some point, everyone will have just switched terms because it's not worth the hassle to fight these fights over and over again. Kind of a "I'm not wrong, but is it a good use of 20 hours a year to argue about this?"
They should just ignore them. Leave the github issue open, just don't respond to it. Let's see where it gets those SJW's
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#139Between this and the commit replacing sexually charged hexspeak constants, I'm shaking my head this morning.
It makes me want to be less politically correct on purpose just to troll the kinds of people who advocate for this meaningless crap.
Words are not inherently offensive, if not used in an offensive manner. Can we just all please go back to being grownups now?
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#140If you don't like what a project is doing then fork it and maintain it yourself.
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