Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone

Post by [deleted] » Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 6:18 PM UTC

dang wrote: post #860

lordlic wrote: post #809

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That sentiment makes me pretty uncomfortable given the proximity of this article's topic to wider ongoing events. Like we should all pour glasses of single malt and sit around a table in our smoking jackets having a languorous discussion. These issues are too important, and the horror and shock and outrage are too fresh, to react to nauseating views by politely sipping your whisky instead of throwing it in their face…

I understand the feeling, but what good does throwing it in their face do?

Post by tshaddox » Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 6:41 PM UTC

DenisM wrote: post #568

jakelazaroff wrote: post #392

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I truly don't understand the problem here. Can you tell me what it is that makes these people dangerous and scary, but the similarly armed protestors who showed up at government buildings a month ago — or, frankly, the police — fine?

The police follow orders from their chain of command that goes up to an elected official. You can petition the elected official, occupy their building, grill them in the media, and vote them out if you convince the other citizens. For example the knee-to-the-neck move was a part of the "orders" in that it was part of standard procedure and it is now being revised and removed. Similarly the tear gas was part of the pr…

Post by hedora » Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 6:49 PM UTC

jessaustin wrote: post #251

hedora wrote: post #228

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I think of neoliberalism and neoconservativism as offshoots of corporatism, which is the idea that government can most efficiently serve the people by protecting the interests of corporations above all else. This leads to the idea that regulatory capture is economically efficient (“Who is better qualified to regulate industry than successful industrialists?”) It also leads to things like banning class action law suit…

Please don't quote that reptile. Of all the reasons to resign from the currently-reigning administration, he chose the fact that Trump had decided to stop killing Syrian children. Not a good look. If the war media is refocusing its attention on him, we can expect he'll be pimping more atrocities real soon. After all the public must be distracted from its current concerns, otherwise we might spend some money on someth…

Post by skissane » Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 6:59 PM UTC

DenisM wrote: post #843

skissane wrote: post #766

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A question – is the problem with police, or is the problem with US police specifically? Do we have the same problem with police in other countries? Canadian police? UK police? Police in EU countries? If the US police have this problem and other (wealthy democratic) countries don't – or even if comparable countries have the problem too, just not quite as bad as the US has it – what makes US police different? Racism an…

In the US it is believed the opposite - more local power structures are easier to influence through local elections. It may not be a huge problem on the scale of Portugal, but as countries get larger things get worse. Imagine the entire EU having one police force - how do you go about changing anything? In the US you can run for mayor or City Council, much more direct connection.

Post by rtkwe » Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 8:24 PM UTC

madengr wrote: post #829

lioeters wrote: post #775

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Wow, that's grown up and filled in quite a bit since last I saw the map. They seem ready for a longer haul. Now that they have our attention, I wish them the best in making their voices heard. So this is what democracy looks like.

Do the property owners have a say in this democracy?