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HTML5 Boilerplate - A rock-solid default template for HTML5

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Re: HTML5 Boilerplate - A rock-solid default template for HTML5

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Post by paulirish »

sbierwagen wrote: post #5

I see it uses and , which, in fact, are not required. Pages without them pass W3C validation without warnings.

From a validation perspective you're totally right.

But browsers are supposed to create HEAD and BODY elements if your markup doesn't include them. However some do not: http://www.stevesouders.com/blog/2010/05/12/autohead-my-firs...

This means everyone's code that does `document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0]` will fail in some cases. Because that is rather risky, we decided to retain these optional elements..

The closing tags for and however...

Re: HTML5 Boilerplate - A rock-solid default template for HTML5

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Post by nimbupani »

twir wrote: post #9

This looks neat, but being a DIY kind of dude, I'm not sure what this is for. I'm probably missing something--I think I know "what" it is, just not "why". Can anyone give me a brief rundown?

All of us involved in the project are pretty much "DIY" kind-of people :)

What we hope people do is to read through the source to see why we made the choices for defaults and pick and choose what they like and keep using them.

There are lots of defaults that were eye-opening to me that were suggested by the scores of contributors to the project.

Re: HTML5 Boilerplate - A rock-solid default template for HTML5

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Post by twir »

nimbupani wrote: post #12
twir wrote: post #9

This looks neat, but being a DIY kind of dude, I'm not sure what this is for. I'm probably missing something--I think I know "what" it is, just not "why". Can anyone give me a brief rundown?

All of us involved in the project are pretty much "DIY" kind-of people :) What we hope people do is to read through the source to see why we made the choices for defaults and pick and choose what they like and keep using them. There are lots of defaults that were eye-opening to me that were suggested by the scores of contributors to the project.

Interesting. So if I understand correctly, the goal is largely to promote guidelines that improve compatibility and performance?

Re: HTML5 Boilerplate - A rock-solid default template for HTML5

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Post by paulirish »

davnola wrote: post #4
paulirish wrote: post #3

The project went 1.0 today. Highlights: * A custom builder to customize your download * An Ant Build Script that handles all the optimization to make YSlow and PageSpeed happy. * Rich documentation: http://html5boilerplate.com/docs * Lots of videos (2 new) on Getting Started and familiarizing with the Build Script * Default webserver configurations optimized for perf for: Apache, Nginx, Lighttpd, Google App Engine, I…

Major thanks for html5boilerplate, for Modernizr, and especially for maintaining this page: https://github.com/Modernizr/Modernizr/wiki/HTML5-Cross-brow... !

:) It deserves a better home, for sure. That'll come soon.

Re: HTML5 Boilerplate - A rock-solid default template for HTML5

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Post by nimbupani »

twir wrote: post #13
nimbupani wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All of us involved in the project are pretty much "DIY" kind-of people :) What we hope people do is to read through the source to see why we made the choices for defaults and pick and choose what they like and keep using them. There are lots of defaults that were eye-opening to me that were suggested by the scores of contributors to the project.

Interesting. So if I understand correctly, the goal is largely to promote guidelines that improve compatibility and performance?

That is a goal yes, but these are the defaults that work for us, and we hope they work for everyone else (and we do look for suggestions to improve these), but if it does not work for you, we actively advocate choosing the defaults that do.

The reasons for each of the choices we made is all within the comments of the source file, so it is easier to choose what to keep and what to change.

Re: HTML5 Boilerplate - A rock-solid default template for HTML5

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Post by twir »

nimbupani wrote: post #16
twir wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting. So if I understand correctly, the goal is largely to promote guidelines that improve compatibility and performance?

That is a goal yes, but these are the defaults that work for us, and we hope they work for everyone else (and we do look for suggestions to improve these), but if it does not work for you, we actively advocate choosing the defaults that do. The reasons for each of the choices we made is all within the comments of the source file, so it is easier to choose what to keep and what to change.

Great! Thanks for the info.

Re: HTML5 Boilerplate - A rock-solid default template for HTML5

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Post by paulirish »

listrophy wrote: post #15

For the Rails community, there's a compass framework for html5boilerplate: https://github.com/sporkd/compass-html5-boilerplate It's not up to the v1.0 release, but it'll get you most of the way there.

It's up to date as of 3 weeks ago, so it's definitely reliable.
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