Zoom Acknowledges It Suspended Activists' Accounts at China's Request

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Post by dehrmann » Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 3:43 AM UTC

Zoom Acknowledges It Suspended Activists' Accounts at China's Request
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Post by amrrs » Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 4:19 AM UTC

> The company said it would no longer block accounts outside of mainland China at Beijing's request, but did not say outright how it would handle such requests that affect users within mainland China. Instead, Zoom said, it would develop technology to block users based on geography.

Funny how these kind of statements are thrown around wherever something is blown up about Zoom. I'm one of those who had goodwill on Zoom but looking at the amount of issues popped up recently and their "Yeah this was intentional but I'm sorry next it it won't happen' response Pattern indicates that the company is aimed at only one thing - Growth at any cost

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Post by giantDinosaur » Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 4:22 AM UTC

I'm surprised they don't implement particular forms of shadow banning, such as degrading connections and causing dropouts for particular accounts. That'd be much harder to prove than account termination. Frustrate instead of infuriate, like aspects of the GFW.

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Post by ciarannolan » Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 4:24 AM UTC

amrrs wrote: post #2

> The company said it would no longer block accounts outside of mainland China at Beijing's request, but did not say outright how it would handle such requests that affect users within mainland China. Instead, Zoom said, it would develop technology to block users based on geography. Funny how these kind of statements are thrown around wherever something is blown up about Zoom. I'm one of those who had goodwill on Zoo…

It's the Facebook playbook of doing something illegal/immoral, getting caught, saying 'gee sorry, that was an accident', then doing it all over again.

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Post by dsalzman » Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 4:25 AM UTC

Vote with your wallet.

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Post by duxup » Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 4:26 AM UTC

"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly.”

-Martin Luther King Jr.

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Post by duxup » Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 4:32 AM UTC

giantDinosaur wrote: post #3

I'm surprised they don't implement particular forms of shadow banning, such as degrading connections and causing dropouts for particular accounts. That'd be much harder to prove than account termination. Frustrate instead of infuriate, like aspects of the GFW.

I feel like they would get caught and China doesn't want "just bother these people"....

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Post by dehrmann » Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 4:34 AM UTC

If I were a company using Zoom, I'd be a little worried. Zoom already proved security isn't part of it's culture; now, likely because of it's dev office in China, it's doing at least some of what China asks. I'm suspicious of their end-to-end encryption claims (and implementation), and it's in the realm of possibility that the Chinese government is spying on Zoom calls.