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Re: Play Counter-Strike 1.6 in your browser

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Post by jfkebwjsbx » Fri, Jun 12, 2020, 11:39 PM UTC

JakeTheAndroid wrote: post #204

jfkebwjsbx wrote: post #200

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I simply stated that downloading dozens of gigabytes from a link is far from ideal. You also lose performance, features, community, and everything a place like Steam gives you. > Why does HN love to rag on web technologies so much? HN is quite pro-web and there are dozens of startups based on the web. Nevertheless, my counter is: why does "the web" try to recreate existing technologies and operating systems?

I mean, before Steam this was basically the state of gaming. No community, limited features, spotty performance. This is just teething issues. There is no reason a platform like Stadia can't work in the future as these things get better. And, in terms of downloading gigs from afar, you're already doing that, but instead of being able to play games while downloading you have to wait to download 60gb of COD updates, co…

> I mean, before Steam this was basically the state of gaming. No community, limited features, spotty performance.

That makes no sense. Before Steam there were many gaming online communities, all games were native and were marvels of technology for the time, etc.

> There is no reason a platform like Stadia can't work in the future as these things get better.

Stadia does not run games on web tech. Quite the opposite. They are native Linux Vulkan binaries.

> you're already doing that

There is a big difference between downloading a game once vs every time.

If you mention offline web storage, that is exactly the same solution as Steam and others do. A good example of the web reinventing the wheel.

> consume your entire PS4 drive with a single game

Not the case with a PC with terabytes of space.

> you're just sitting there not using your PS4

Not the case with Steam/PC. > We are starting to see more cross platform support for games between PS4, XBO, and PC. But older games won't ever support cross platform between Windows, OSX, and Nix.

That has nothing to do with technology. It is a matter of licensing, finances and support.

The overwhelming majority of games use engines which target all platforms, from PC to mobile to console.

> A browser port could easily change that.

No, because it has nothing to do with technical issues.

> Why is this an issue in your opinion?

I have never claimed it is an issue.

> Isn't ideal to adapt old concepts to new implementations?

A new implementation does not imply a better implementation.

Re: Play Counter-Strike 1.6 in your browser

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Post by kaoD » Fri, Jun 12, 2020, 11:41 PM UTC

rapsey wrote: post #34

tupac_speedrap wrote: post #7

I like how they have Russia as the flag of Europe despite most of the country not even being in Europe, most people would use the EU flag but I guess this is CS 1.6 so they are most likely a fair few Russians about.

Russia is and always has been considered a European country.

That's news to me, an European.

Re: Play Counter-Strike 1.6 in your browser

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Post by kodt » Fri, Jun 12, 2020, 11:45 PM UTC

smabie wrote: post #214

kodt wrote: post #209

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I think CS will keep its popularity. Only players who can't cut it at a high level in CS are bailing to Valorant.

You mean like Skadoodle?

Or players past their prime.

Re: Play Counter-Strike 1.6 in your browser

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Post by KapKap55 » Fri, Jun 12, 2020, 11:48 PM UTC

baby wrote: post #244

hombre_fatal wrote: post #76

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You're going to hang the state of networked browser gaming on this random person's netcode implementation? Go to r/GameDev and you can find some redditor Unity projects built on UDP that are even worse, but you aren't going to say "wow, UDP sux". Check out something like https://krunker.io/ which gives me a surprisingly good FPS experience despite my distance from the server. Browser gaming does take some thought tho…

How good is krunker? Don't have a mouse but maybe I could get one.

It's quite fun and has a surprisingly deep movement system. The userbase is very young so if you have any FPS experience you will shred through the average player.

Expect to get annihilated by someone who knows the movement system though. You'll know someone's using it when you see it, since they'll be moving at 999 units per second and circle strafing you to death.

Re: Play Counter-Strike 1.6 in your browser

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Post by enragedcacti » Fri, Jun 12, 2020, 11:55 PM UTC

JakeTheAndroid wrote: post #201

ericzawo wrote: post #185

I sunk many hours of my life into this beautiful, beautiful game (starting at the tail end of 1.5, however!) and sometimes tune in to watch CS:GO competitive matches. I know Valorant is apparently stepping up as a spiritual successor to Counter-Strike, but I just love this game for it's emphasis on pure skill, and I really am surprised few other games have come as close as 1.6 to perfecting a team-based FPS that land…

While plenty of people will likely move over to Valorant, as someone who's played a bit I think there is still a distinct difference between the two games. The main thing shared between the two is the feel while shooting. It's hard to explain, but you feel the "weight" of the gun and it's rate of fire really well and it's satisfying when you land shots. But, the abilities, while not overly broken, does change the fee…

> The CS pros moving to Valorant are basically doing so because they either can't have a CS career (Brax, perma ban for match fixing; iBuyPower) or haven't been good enough in a while/never were good enough for a T1 CSGO team.

I think it is really early to use this as some sigil for how good the game is or how well it will do as an esport. Of course the first people to move are the ones outside of a current CS contract! Why would you give up your share of multi-million dollar prize pools while the other game is a week and a half old? it isn't necessarily an indictment of Valorant, its just the sensible business choice this early in the game.

Re: Play Counter-Strike 1.6 in your browser

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Post by ionwake » Fri, Jun 12, 2020, 11:57 PM UTC

anoraca wrote: post #243

ericzawo wrote: post #185

I sunk many hours of my life into this beautiful, beautiful game (starting at the tail end of 1.5, however!) and sometimes tune in to watch CS:GO competitive matches. I know Valorant is apparently stepping up as a spiritual successor to Counter-Strike, but I just love this game for it's emphasis on pure skill, and I really am surprised few other games have come as close as 1.6 to perfecting a team-based FPS that land…

Valorant appears to me to be an uninspired clone with a few gimmicks and a lot of marketing money behind it. It's the same way that LoL was a clone of DotA with extra marketing and a few gimmicks. I don't understand why anyone knowledgeable would be installing a "free" game that includes a kernel level rootkit. https://www.techspot.com/news/84841-valorant-anti-cheat-soft...

I believe you are wrong , Dota2 was a rip off of LOL.

Interesting you mention the root kit - you realise Steam monitors urls Your machine has visited right? They also didn’t confirm whether or not these are then uploaded to their servers.

Re: Play Counter-Strike 1.6 in your browser

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Post by Grimm1 » Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 12:02 AM UTC

jfkebwjsbx wrote: post #277

Grimm1 wrote: post #220

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Because the web is the closest to a universal platform where as the existing operating systems are walled gardens?

How are Linux, Windows or even macOS walled gardens?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed_platform

The average non-technical person isn't installing unsigned software on Mac or Windows, and the average person isn't using Linux at all so it's not worth considering in this conversation.

For all intents and purposes, approved windows applications and mac app store apps are what they get.

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Post by derekdahmer » Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 12:03 AM UTC

caymanjim wrote: post #266

nthitz wrote: post #211

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What areas does CS:GO fall short in when compared to 1.6?

There's not a lot of difference in gameplay, but CSGO destroyed the sense of community and enabled toxic players. Prior to CSGO, there was a vibrant community of player-hosted servers, run by clans. The best of them had active admins who would kick/ban cheaters, trolls, and toxic people. It was hard to find good community servers, but once you did, it felt like home. It's much easier to get into a match now, due to t…

Community in gaming is still just as strong it's just shifted from custom servers to discord servers.

Back in the day I remember mailing $10 every month to someone splitting hosting costs on our clan's 1.6 CS server. It felt like a clubhouse I'd pop into after school to hang out with all my online friends.

Nowadays I get the same experience from joining voice chat in my regular Discord channel with people I know, then grouping up with whoever's online for a few comp or quick play overwatch games.

Re: Play Counter-Strike 1.6 in your browser

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Post by jfkebwjsbx » Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 12:04 AM UTC

baby wrote: post #245

jfkebwjsbx wrote: post #126

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> How about being able to play with your friends after just handing them a link? That doesn’t work well for games with lots of modern assets. > Native 1.6 doesn't even run on my computer at all. That is strange, it works on the latest Windows. > I think browser ports are the only hope that old games have at coming back. Why? Steam, GoG, DOSBox, Proton, DXVK, emulators, VMs, etc. all give you access to almost every ga…

pretty sure I can't run 1.6 on my mac

You definitely can.

But regardless of this particular game, it is not a valid complaint. It is like complaining your phone or your toaster cannot run a given game because it was never designed for them.

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Post by smnscu » Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 12:08 AM UTC

fooqux wrote: post #246

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #242

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It's different for professional players, isn't it: >'On June 3rd 2020, it was announced by T1 that he has resumed his professional career but in Valorant - reuniting with ex-iBUYPOWER teammates Braxton "swag" Pierce and Keven "AZK" Larivière in the process.' ( https://liquipedia.net/counterstrike/Skadoodle ) // If Valorant is less aim-based (I don't know) wouldn't that make sense for a retiree from a more aim-based g…

For sure. I don't know about all you, but I would go nuts if I had to stay in the same job forever. Sometimes you desire new challenges or greener pastures.

FWIW I've played the same game competitively for the past 11 years, while also doing the same job (programmer). Not sure how that reflects on me haha, but despite doing the same thing, the "meta" and skill level is dramatically different for both.