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Facebook fires employee for publicly scolding a colleague

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Re: Facebook fires employee for publicly scolding a colleague

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Why would this open source project add something specific to the US even if just a banner?

People keep saying slogans like "injustice anywhere..." or silence is complicit ... but they mean just on this US/Western issue?

It seems like brigading people.

Re: Facebook fires employee for publicly scolding a colleague

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post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kill em with kindness. “Thanks for letting me know how you feel about this, I consider this a valuable opinion and think deeply on it”. Then go ahead and do whatever you were going to do anyway, but at least let them know you’ve heard and acknowledged what they had to say. Sometimes folks just want to be acknowledged, that doesn’t seem like too much of a burden.

I this this is a good approach that I've used before. I think it starts to crumble when people start to demand you to do stuff like posting on your social media or showing them donation receipts.

I think the unfortunate reality is that some people are intolerant of others who are insufficiently supportive of certain causes, and the only way to deal with those people is not to deal with them. The subject of this thread seems to be one of those people.

Re: Facebook fires employee for publicly scolding a colleague

#43

Why would this open source project add something specific to the US even if just a banner? People keep saying slogans like "injustice anywhere..." or silence is complicit ... but they mean just on this US/Western issue? It seems like brigading people.

I think the advocates would agree that it's brigading. They're trying to create a climate where it's simply impossible to be neutral on their issue of choice, since they feel it's wrong to be neutral.

Re: Facebook fires employee for publicly scolding a colleague

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post #30

> “Intentionally not making a statement is already political,” Dale wrote in the tweet No it’s not. And this reminds me of the Dictatorship of the small minority [0] from NN Taleb. There are small intolerant minorities who are extremely vocal on certain matters to the point their opinions resemble a dictatorship [0] https://medium.com/incerto/the-most-intolerant-wins-the-dict...

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Re: Facebook fires employee for publicly scolding a colleague

#45
I'm so over this political posturing. I can't wait for ~2 weeks when everyone's going to go back to their lives like nothing happened (remember #OccupyWallStreet?).

People that actually change the world don't need to advertise it on Twitter. I have friends that volunteer in Watts and Compton every other weekend (and have done so for years) that don't need to share it on social media. I can't help but think that this current Twitter slacktivism really diminishes their genuine mission.

Re: Facebook fires employee for publicly scolding a colleague

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post #38

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He decides because he believes something strongly it permits him to publicly attack someone he works with... Imagine having to deal with this guy in a team when he has a strong opinion on something the team disagrees with ...

Agree. It's endemic of the political and cultural climate we're in right now, where mob rule is becoming the status quo. Personal politics should be just that, personal.

> where mob rule is becoming the status quo.

The Government of the US is currently (mostly) controlled by a party that received fewer votes.

Re: Facebook fires employee for publicly scolding a colleague

#47

> Trump’s posts included the racially charged phrase “when the looting starts, the shooting starts” How is that racially charged?

It's a quote said in 1967 by Miami police Chief Walter Headley who was talking about how he will respond to protests against the police. For context, he also said he was against "young hoodlums, from 15 to 21, who have taken advantage of the civil rights campaign. ... We don't mind being accused of police brutality" The Chief got the phrase from the guy who used firehoses and dogs against children during the Birmingh…

That sounds like the "Hitler liked dogs" argument. Just because that police chief sounds like a bad person from the quote doesn't mean that everything he said was bad. In fact, I think many Americans would be fine with the use of violent force to stop violent criminals

Re: Facebook fires employee for publicly scolding a colleague

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I didn't expect to agree with Facebook corporate but here I am. It's one thing to privately disagree with a coworker about their action or lack thereof with respect to a contemporary event. But to drag it into a public setting is a severe violation of boundaries and borderline harassment. It's a huge liability risk to FB -- to scold your colleagues in public for their desire to separate the political from the professional is workplace harassment and something that would probably get you fired anywhere.

With that said, I get the sense there is a large part of a story that is not being told here. Where was the manager? Has this employee had a history of maintaining appropriate professional boundaries with respect to communication? If Facebook doesn't have the appropriate paper trail, they could easily be sued for retaliation.

Re: Facebook fires employee for publicly scolding a colleague

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post #24

Facebook: hardcore about unlimited freedom of speech, unless you want to unionize. Then you can fuck right the fuck off. https://theintercept.com/2020/06/11/facebook-workplace-union...

This is misleading as well. They aren’t autoblocking word “unionize” in their Facebook Workplace product. They give customers (employers who purchase this product) the ability to block any arbitrary word they want. And as an example, they brought up word “unionize”.

Re: Facebook fires employee for publicly scolding a colleague

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I think a key phrase here is "he was dismissed for publicly challenging a colleague’s silence". In other words, he publicly harassed a colleague who (for what could be any number of perfectly valid reasons) preferred not to publicly state their beliefs. That would seem to me to be an eminently reasonable reason to fire someone. If you go around publicly harassing your colleagues to publicly state their political opin…

Indeed -- here is some additional context that the article doesn't provide: The fired employee Tweeted today: >In the interest of transparency, I was let go for calling out an employee’s inaction here on Twitter. I stand by what I said. They didn’t give me the chance to quit [0] He then specifically cited [1] the Tweet in question that was the cause: >I asked @Vjeux to follow @reactjs's lead and add a statement of su…

Politics should be kept out of the workplace.
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