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Why the Quick Bar (“dickbar”) is still so offensive

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Re: Why the Quick Bar (“dickbar”) is still so offensive

#101
The whole thing is mind-blowing.

Shortly, Twitter should be more profitable than Google.

How Google makes money? More or less, they sell queries. They do not know the right price, so they let the market to figure it out. It works extremely well but they are able to flood someone with ads only about 10-20 times a day.

Twitter, on the other hand, is able to flood with ads all the time. Actually, they are able to push ads, instead of having to wait for a query. Twitter is able to auction with more "vectors", such as location, whole feed, followers etc. They do not have to do any information retrieval over this data, it is already provided with the structure.

Twitter does not have any privacy issues. It is already assumed that nearly everything you post on Twitter is public, so no one is going to screw them for using this. The data posted on Twitter is not sensitive, unlike Facebook.

Also, there is a huge value about the way they receive the data. They have a significant edge over the old web, as they get a lot of things before the whole world. What is even better, they do not have to pull this data, people push it to Twitter. They have data faster and they do not have costs related to crawling the web.

So, if for some reason they do not want flood people with ads, they are also able to auction immediate notifications about queries, the whole stream of tweets, some parts of it. They are able to set the minimum price of each auction so they offset their costs. Everyone focuses on Twitter as a marketing channel but there are many, very profitable, industries that live by the speed, die by the speed.

And do not get me started with the control they have over links posted in Tweets...

EDIT: typos

Re: Why the Quick Bar (“dickbar”) is still so offensive

#102
post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's truly just... insane. There's not a better word for it than that. My tweets are a wealth of data about things I care about. There are so many ways to sell truly useful ads against that – you have to be off your nut not to take this approach. Real-time ads that solve your problems without you doing anything more than gabbing away could make Google look like a two-bit lemonade stand. "Fuck, I hate AT&T. Worst cell…

How many dozens of Twitter NLP companies for tracking brands are there? Twitter should buy their favorite, and offer brand reinforcement and steal-away ads. Better already.

What's NLP? Google didn't help - unless it stands for 'Neuro-Linguistic Programming'...

Re: Why the Quick Bar (“dickbar”) is still so offensive

#103
post #102
post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How many dozens of Twitter NLP companies for tracking brands are there? Twitter should buy their favorite, and offer brand reinforcement and steal-away ads. Better already.

What's NLP? Google didn't help - unless it stands for 'Neuro-Linguistic Programming'...

Natural Language Processing, I think

Re: Why the Quick Bar (“dickbar”) is still so offensive

#104
post #95

It's not just the dickbar that's offensive - it's the fact that its release along with the announcement that Twitter is going to try to limit the development of other clients against their API that really makes it distasteful. I understand that they have a need to monetize - I get it, but to do so in such a ham-handed way really bothers me.

Was just thinking about this, it would be great if they did do targeted advertising and did it through an API, so 3rd party clients could choose to include ads and both Twitter and the 3rd party takes a cut, or allow them to continue without advertising but ban other advertising meaning that they can only monetise by selling the app or including Twitter ads.

I think this is an AWESOME idea.

Re: Why the Quick Bar (“dickbar”) is still so offensive

#105
post #82

It’s a news ticker limited to one-word items, lacking any context, broadcasting mostly topics that I don’t understand, recognize, or care about. It’s nonsensical. At worst, it can offend. At best, it will confuse. That actually sums up Twitter as a whole. Try as I might, I've never been able to shift my perception of Twitter beyond that and into something that could ever be useful to me in any way. Look at the bottom…

"I think Twitter's a good thing. Why say a lot to a few people when you can say virtually nothing to everyone" --Jerry Seinfeld

The best analogy I've heard of Twitter is it's like I were to stand on my balcony and shout at the crowd below.
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