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Is Dark Mode Such a Good Idea?

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Re: Is Dark Mode Such a Good Idea?

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Wait. So. "Multiple studies show that light mode is better" trumps my actual experience, with my eyeballs, in my office environment? No. No it doesn't. 1. I don't have that much faith in scientists. Someone trying to p-hack their way to a publishable result that's sensational enough to advance their career is not going to produce good advice for me. 2. Even if they were perfect scientists, they're not using my eyebal…

Dark mode has 2 main advantages: - Better rendering of hues. This comes in nice for things like syntax coloring, or photo editing. The eye is evaluating a color next to the absence of light, instead of next to washed out light. - Less eye strain when ambient light is insufficient. Ideally the brightness of the screen should be within the same range of brighness as the surroundings. In my home office, I have about 20,…

Any comments on optimal lighting for a home office? Or, as your setup is?

A nice bright working area sounds nice. Bonus if it's good light, and not something that will feel unnatural.

Sidenote: I've got a nice big window that I face, and I often want it open, but my room is so dark I have to keep it mostly closed as it overpowers my monitor, eyes, etc.

Re: Is Dark Mode Such a Good Idea?

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There are mainly three relevant, scientific facts that has to do with light mode and dark mode.

1) That points of light spread in your retina, while "points of dark" (absence of light) do not.

For this reason, light text on a dark background (dark mode) "bleeds" in your retina, which depending on your vision, becomes blurry and less in-focus, and letterforms begin to run into and merge with each other. This decreases legibility. Squinting reduces the amount of light, and is a common response to increase focus. Squinting is a cause of eyestrain. Turning down the brightness helps but may cause the text to be too dim, by the point where bleed is insignificant.

Dark text on a light background (light mode), on the other hand, has surrounding light bleed into it. This reduces contrast a little bit, but because modern screens already have so much contrast (and black-on-white is usually too high contrast anyways), but legibility remains ideal and there's no eyestrain due to focus problems.

2) That for dark text on a light background (light mode), an overly bright screen relative to the surroundings may cause eyestrain, as you squint to compensate. The maximum brightness on your screen is often too bright unless you're in a super sunny room. To correct this, hold a piece of white office paper next to your screen, and reduce brightness until the screen matches. (If you're watching movies or something, however, you'll probably want maximum brightness.)

3) That lots of light, apparently blue light, before bedtime, can work against you falling asleep.

What's this all add up to?

Well, if you're young with amazing eyesight, you might be able to do whatever you want, but you'll have an easier time if you don't keep things at maximum brightness when working, no matter which mode you're using.

And if it's close to bed then either f.lux or Night Shift are a good idea, with a dim screen if using light mode, or a not-too-bright screen if using dark mode.

But that for normal work during the day, if you have fairly average or worse vision? Light mode absolutely wins the day in terms of eyestrain and legibility, as long as your screen is kept to the brightness of a white piece of paper, and not more.

But if you just like the aesthetics of dark mode and you don't get eyestrain or headaches from any squinting? Then go ahead. There doesn't seem to be any evidence that long-term squinting causes any long-term vision deterioration. But as you get older, you may find yourself needing to switch back to light mode one day.

Re: Is Dark Mode Such a Good Idea?

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post #313

Wait. So. "Multiple studies show that light mode is better" trumps my actual experience, with my eyeballs, in my office environment? No. No it doesn't. 1. I don't have that much faith in scientists. Someone trying to p-hack their way to a publishable result that's sensational enough to advance their career is not going to produce good advice for me. 2. Even if they were perfect scientists, they're not using my eyebal…

You are overstating the results of such studies or use your datapoint out of context. Just because A is on average better than B, does not mean that A is better for everyone. If you have a study that shows that most people do(n't) like pineapple on pizza (maybe make a blog post "is pineapple on pizza such a good idea?"), that is rather unrelated to someone likeing pineapple on pizza or not and is not claiming that al…

> Just because A is on average better than B, does not mean that A is better for everyone.

You're proving the point, how would you even know for sure if you are A or B? You would have to try it out anyway.

Re: Is Dark Mode Such a Good Idea?

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This is precisely the reason I'm using Flux (or f.lux) DURING THE DAY to eliminate the amount of blue in the screen.

I'm currently using 4800K. The reason is twofold;

1. my screen now better blends in into the surrounding light and therefore feels more natural to look at and

2. in order to preserve my ability to see blue light. Research has shown (can't find it now, but it seems reasonable) that when you look too much to screens, the ability to see blue light becomes less as your brain tries to compensate for the amount of blue light, in order to give a more natural view of the screen.

Next to that, I'm putting the brightness of my MacBook and monitor that much lower, so it's about the same brightness as the surroundings. Meaning, brighter when I'm outside or the sun shines brightly in my room, darker when it's darker out- or inside.

Re: Is Dark Mode Such a Good Idea?

#369

Wait. So. "Multiple studies show that light mode is better" trumps my actual experience, with my eyeballs, in my office environment? No. No it doesn't. 1. I don't have that much faith in scientists. Someone trying to p-hack their way to a publishable result that's sensational enough to advance their career is not going to produce good advice for me. 2. Even if they were perfect scientists, they're not using my eyebal…

it's gonna be hard to run a double-blind experiment on that one

Re: Is Dark Mode Such a Good Idea?

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> A nice dark screen with light text is easier to read, right? Well, according to multiple studies, that’s wrong apparently. That was really funny. "Do you like chocolate? Well, according to multiple studies, you don't apparently." How can a study tell me what is comfortable for me? Are we going crazy? We are starting to treat studies like little gods which tell us what to do, and apparently, what to like.

This article is an experiment to see how easily hacker news people can be manipulated. "When I was in the military..." Yep, confirmed.
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