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Post by iron0013 »

tathougies wrote: post #315
salawat wrote: post #294

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Thank you. I think people discount the power of speaking out. Don't worry about the negativity. Speak the truth, and it's all that can be asked of you.

I'll never stop speaking the truth. Had a white professor in an immigration history class attempt to discount my view of being an actual child of immigrants by saying I had become a white person. The gaslighting of immigrant experiences is real. Thanks for the support!

lmao yeah thanks for sharing, it was totally pertinent to the point at hand

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Post by flyingfences »

muricula wrote: post #221
VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #200

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if it's anything like occupy wall street then it will be abandoned when burger king stops letting them use their bathroom

The city is providing porta potties right now, as are local businesses and there are individually rented porta potties. Sanitation is much better than occupy right now.

"Right now" is subject to change...

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Post by billylo »

cma wrote: post #284
colllectorof wrote: post #214

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> The media coverage of it is WILD > People on the internet are convinced it's protected by armed guards and people are dying of hunger and instead its...like a music festival campground This seems like propaganda in its own right. With the exception of Fox and Sky, most news coverage I see on YouTube is neutral or positive: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=capitol+hill+au... Most mainstream coverage of p…

Fox is by far the most popular news channel in the US and pretty close to bigger than the rest combined.

More details on the numbers. https://www.statista.com/statistics/373814/cable-news-networ...

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Post by Kye »

nikkwong wrote: post #109
Minor49er wrote: post #18

Seattle doesn't want to be beaten by Minneapolis to becoming the next Detroit

Yes, I'm personally very worried about this as someone who is heavily invested in the real estate market here. The issue of how to deal with the rapid growth in the city is multifaceted and it's difficult to pitch a stance on. At the very least, you could easily make an argument that a rising tide does not lift all boats; i.e. many people are personally not benefiting much from the tech-boom in the area. On the other…

>> "Should people really be entitled to live in an expensive city that they cannot afford?"

They do if you want the people who serve your $5 coffees and $20 meals to be able to live within a reasonable distance. I like to think the people gentrifying them out don't want to push them out, but I'm not sure most of them even realize they're responsible for the huge homeless population. They moved in for the well-paid jobs and pushed the people who lived there out. The pushed out don't always have somewhere to go or a way to get there.

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Post by rtkwe »

ed25519FUUU wrote: post #269
rtkwe wrote: post #258

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Unincorporated but not unowned and there's a huge amount of infrastructure and money required to setup even a small town ex nihilo in some randomly selected part of the country.

Building infrastructure is something easily solved by capitalist. Can it not also be solved by likeminded people with alternative economic principles?

Because beyond doing it by hand and setting up a city sized septic system the equipment for stuff like processing waste and preparing water is extremely expensive and the only sources want lots of money for them. It's doable just very delicate and requires permission and buy-in from actors in the existing system.

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Post by DocEasyE »

dang wrote: post #858
dang wrote: post #77

All: this story is here because it's an interesting phenomenon, a la https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html . Before commenting, please make sure you're up to date on those rules and post in the intended spirit (curiosity and conversation) not the opposite one (ideology and battle).

This is a stub comment to collect replies in one place, so that it can be collapsed and prevent too much offtopicness at the top of the thread.

this is not an interesting phenomenon, this has happened many times and still these places exist, whats not interesting is the civilians got caught in these dummies crossfire.

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Post by bmelton »

Nursie wrote: post #345
gonational wrote: post #290

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> unchecked power is bad Are you pro individual gun ownership? The second amendment exists in the US Constitution, first and foremost to balance the power between a populous and would-be tyrants.

> The second amendment exists in the US Constitution, first and foremost to balance the power between a populous and would-be tyrants. So the solution for police not being regulated enough, is for the people to take up arms against them? Rather than fixing the regulations?

It seems like folks have been demanding the regulations be fixed for some time now to no avail. Moreover, it isn't always so easy to just 'fix' a regulation. Qualified Immunity isn't a regulation in the traditional sense, it's jurisprudence. Sure, it's possible that legislation can resolve it (and hopefully it does so in a meaningful way) but "just asking" hasn't been working for some time now.

What CHAZ shows us is that there is perhaps a middle ground between "asking" and "taking up arms," but if none of the demands are met, I don't know that there are many other steps left.

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Post by fsckboy »

cylinder wrote: post #324
11thEarlOfMar wrote: post #257

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On the right, I am seeing: - It's called Antifastan - Warlord Raz is prone to violent outbursts, and is an AirBnb Superhost. - There are open carries with automatic rifles. They get the most respect. - Laughing out loud at an attempt to create a vegetable garden. Didn't appear promising. - Laughing harder at a cry for 'please send vegan meats and soy products, the homeless took all the food!' My thinking is, the trut…

they're just supremely bored, hateful, paranoid people with literally nothing to do but read outright fraudulent "news" reports, never critically thinking about it but just riding dopamine hits.

just so I can calibrate the scale of all those descriptors, could you give a list of descriptors you would use for yourself and how you spend your time? does your brain not regulate with dopamine?

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Post by thu2111 »

jasonvorhe wrote: post #351
thu2111 wrote: post #348

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But then there's also this: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaQyClgU4AEJnWf?format=jpg&name=... https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaQyCmMUEAEn_1o?format=jpg&name=... I've not before seen a summer street festival where armed militias wearing bulletproof vests patrol the streets.

How many summer festivals have you been to where to people in charge are at risk of being attacked by armed white supremacists?

Putting aside the question of who is going to attack these people, that's my point. It's not a summer festival.
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