One thing not noted or studied is the impact on using your phone in bed next to your partner.
Light mode lights up the bedroom and disturbs my partner while dark mode does not.
Is Dark Mode Such a Good Idea?
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#322Earlier quoted context omitted.
> point the errors you find All of those studies are studies of how other people experienced dark mode vs. normal mode. All of my studies are studies of how I experience dark mode vs. normal mode. I feel that my sample more closely aligns to the population I'm trying to study. Also it mentions spectrum-shifting software like 'night light' or f.lux or whatever Android and Windows call it when they do this by default.…
It's easy to be wrong even about your own perception. You might think you like the dark mode because it strains your eyes less, but in reality you just like how it looks and you strain your eyes more, being more fatigued at the end of the day without even noticing. Or the other direction. This whole "those studies are studies of how other people experienced X" is a typical argumentation scheme of esoteric fields like…
So you're telling me I'm wrong and I actually like bright mode more than dark mode?
We are literally discussing my subjective experiences here. And you're telling me I'm wrong. About my subjective experiences.
Ohhh-kay.
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#323> When I was in the military, a key tactic of camouflage was to never, under any circumstances, expose yourself on a hilltop or similar, where your silhouette could be easily identified. A dark blob on a light background is far easier for the human eye to see, than the reverse.
This is absurd. You know what's EASIEST to see? A shining light bulb against a background of darkness.
I am skeptical about this suggestion of evolutionary reasons to explain computer screen settings. Obviously any vision task is influenced by our evolutionary history, but we did not evolve to read text at all.
Independent of that, there are at least two parameters that I can control, usually much more easily than light/dark. I can adjust text size, per application, and I can adjust screen brightness, per machine. These things allow fine control of 1) ease of reading, 2) total light output. Any study that considers the binary light/dark setting and ignores anything more fine-grained is completely missing the point.
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#324I skip reading articles with white background when in bed, because the screen light is too bright even at the lowest screen brightness setting. Fortunately HN client can display comments white on dark :)
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#325Wait. So. "Multiple studies show that light mode is better" trumps my actual experience, with my eyeballs, in my office environment? No. No it doesn't. 1. I don't have that much faith in scientists. Someone trying to p-hack their way to a publishable result that's sensational enough to advance their career is not going to produce good advice for me. 2. Even if they were perfect scientists, they're not using my eyebal…
Science is not a faith based system. If you doubt about the rigor of some study, by all means point the errors you find. In the meantime, I will trust those scientific studies more than subjective opinions in hackernews comments.
> If you doubt about the rigor of some study, by all means point the errors you find. In the meantime, I will trust those scientific studies more than subjective opinions in hackernews comments.
Maybe, but most published studies are close to pure garbage and even in clinical trials which is supposed to be the holy grail of Science there's cherry picking, improper design, and lack of repeatability across the board.
"Science" is only as good as the humans conducting it. Unfortunately us humans are pretty bad at doing Science.
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#326Earlier quoted context omitted.
I am old enough to have written programs when "dark mode" was the default (black background and green or amber text, 40 columns, 80 columns if you were lucky), and I can tell you that light mode is much easier on my eyes. Black text (real black, not this fancy grey web designers seem to prefer) and white background on a properly adjusted monitor where the white doesn't blind you is my go-to since monitors became good…
By contrast, I am old enough to have written programs when "dark mode" was the default (black background and green or amber text, 40 columns, 80 columns if you were lucky), and I can tell you that dark mode is much easier on my eyes. Convinced? // Was and remain in the amber camp. /// See also: https://www.nngroup.com/articles/dark-mode/ ” ... we strongly recommend that designers allow users to switch to dark mode if…
I mean, parent post said "easier on my eyes" and "ymmv". It doesn't take much convincing for me to believe that light mode is easier on parents eyes and dark mode is easier on your eyes. I believe you.
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#327Yes. I thought Dark Mode was some cool hipster shit until it shipped in iOS. I enabled it just to see what all the fuss was about. I love it and I'll never go back. For me the win is noticeably reduced eyestrain.
OTOH I know people who tried it and hated it. Just because I like it doesn't mean you have to like it. I think it's awesome to have choices.
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#328Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's easy to be wrong even about your own perception. You might think you like the dark mode because it strains your eyes less, but in reality you just like how it looks and you strain your eyes more, being more fatigued at the end of the day without even noticing. Or the other direction. This whole "those studies are studies of how other people experienced X" is a typical argumentation scheme of esoteric fields like…
So you're telling me I'm wrong and I actually like bright mode more than dark mode? We are literally discussing my subjective experiences here . And you're telling me I'm wrong. About my subjective experiences. Ohhh-kay.
I think they were discussing the subject of, how our conscious estimation of our subjective experience can be way off. Which is a legitimate point?
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#329Earlier quoted context omitted.
So you're telling me I'm wrong and I actually like bright mode more than dark mode? We are literally discussing my subjective experiences here . And you're telling me I'm wrong. About my subjective experiences. Ohhh-kay.
I think they were discussing the subject of, how our conscious estimation of our subjective experience can be way off. Which is a legitimate point?
Is it? I mean, serious question - aren't they they same thing? What IS our subjective experience if not our conscious estimation of how we experienced the thing? Is it possible to think you're enjoying something when really you're not, and if so then what the heck does that even mean?
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#330If you have eye floaters, dark mode is a life saver. The dark spots from floaters can be maddening against a white background
If you see the floaters then your screen is way to bright. I see my floaters only when looking at the sky during the day and I have lots of them. I think this is because the pupil contracts and the depth of field grows and the floaters project onto the retina
I can see mine even on minimum brightness... I just happen to have a couple of pretty dense, yet small, ones.