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Is Dark Mode Such a Good Idea?

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Re: Is Dark Mode Such a Good Idea?

#142

"Is Dark Mode Such a Good Idea?" Yes, it is. One thing is reading a newspaper in which text amounts to a good percentage of the available area, and the rest reflects ambient light, and a whole different thing is a screen with some text in the middle and the free area emitting white light right to my eyes, de facto saturating them. I would never read a white text on black paper newspaper, neither in the dark nor in th…

I totally disagree.

the s/n on white background is very high.

the s/n on a black background is terrible (reflection easily overwhelm the signal)

young eyes don't care

older eyes, with less ability to reshape the lens of the eye need extra light to close down the pupil and put more stuff in focus without eyestrain.

Re: Is Dark Mode Such a Good Idea?

#143

The most important part is preference IMO. People have the right to choose which is right for them, and if they determine that dark mode is better for them (even if they just think it looks better), having a setting in the OS that cascades down to all applications and websites is just a nice feature to have. This is why prefers-color-scheme is the perfect mechanism for this. Simply swap out your CSS variables and aut…

This is where I land too. My IDE is dark. So are my terminals and slack. Everything else is black on white background. I tried using dark mode in the reading mode on my browsers, but it never felt natural, especially for long form reading.

Re: Is Dark Mode Such a Good Idea?

#145

The most important part is preference IMO. People have the right to choose which is right for them, and if they determine that dark mode is better for them (even if they just think it looks better), having a setting in the OS that cascades down to all applications and websites is just a nice feature to have. This is why prefers-color-scheme is the perfect mechanism for this. Simply swap out your CSS variables and aut…

> even if they just think it looks better

This is the reason why I use dark mode now. Eye strain and saving battery I don't think about. Easier to read? Sure, because it's my preference. I even use lights behind my monitors to counteract the "flash" you get when you switch from a dark IDE to a white web browser. I don't like complete _darkness_, I just like the look.

Re: Is Dark Mode Such a Good Idea?

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post #134

The most important part is preference IMO. People have the right to choose which is right for them, and if they determine that dark mode is better for them (even if they just think it looks better), having a setting in the OS that cascades down to all applications and websites is just a nice feature to have. This is why prefers-color-scheme is the perfect mechanism for this. Simply swap out your CSS variables and aut…

Thank you. Everything else around this dicussion is pointless. If some people like light or dark mode thats up to them to choose. At least we're getting some choice back in our UIs.

I wouldn't agree with that. People may have made their choice based on incorrect research or incorrect assumptions: there is value in discussing the latest research.

It's like saying discussions about whether cigarettes are good or bad for you are pointless, the important thing is that people are able to buy them if they want.

Re: Is Dark Mode Such a Good Idea?

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post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it’s dependent on the app. Lots of third party apps don’t seem to correctly implement listening for the theme change. In Chrome, for example, I always have the Dev Tools open in a separate window, and the theme seems to change while my Mac is awake, but if the theme is supposed to change while my Mac is asleep, it won’t ever change even after waking the machine up.

No, this is the system theme. I run additional scripts to keep apps in line with the system if they need help.

Do you mean that your system theme (e.g. the UI of system apps like Finder) doesn’t switch between light and dark based on the time of day? I haven’t encountered that problem, I’ve only seen third-party apps not keep their theme in sync with the system theme.

Re: Is Dark Mode Such a Good Idea?

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From my personal experience dark mode helps my eyes significantly. Without dark mode I get dry eye symptoms within a few hours regardless of the screen, but I can watch a dark screen basically forever without any issues. I also use a slight red shift, the dark reader browser extension, dark terminal, dark vim theme, dark wallpaper and android 10 in dark mode on OLED.

Re: Is Dark Mode Such a Good Idea?

#149

No one seems to be mentioning the lighting of the room you're in, inside/outside, or the time of day. Ambient light is one of the primary factors that make light or dark mode better at a particular moment. See redshift to make light mode more tolerable at night.

Exactly this. If I have pager duty and wake up in the night and need to read an e-mail (LCD screen), light mode blinds me so much I cannot even keep my eyes open. With dark mode I can read fine.

This is what I like about iOS (and probably every OS has it): after sundown, turn on dark mode.

Re: Is Dark Mode Such a Good Idea?

#150

After reading this article from Nielsen about the size of usability studies [1] their research credibility has gone down for me. According to the article, no matter the size of a user base: "... the answer is simple: test 5 users in a usability study. Testing with 5 people lets you find almost as many usability problems as you'd find using many more test participants." Oh wait, but my site has millions of users! "Doe…

The point the article you're quoting is making is that if you insist on a single number then 5 is enough if your question falls in a specific category. Namely, for the purpose of finding the number of people needed to get the biggest payoff in terms of number of usability problems identified.

This being the key point they're making:

> The main argument for small tests is simply return on investment: testing costs increase with each additional study participant, yet the number of findings quickly reaches the point of diminishing returns. There's little additional benefit to running more than 5 people through the same study; ROI drops like a stone with a bigger N.

This doesn't quantify the scale of the reported problems. It goes into it with the assumption that you simply want to find as many of the problems with your site as possible.

> Even if you were doing statistics?

The sentence you quoted regarding this makes the point that the number of users the site has is not the factor that should drive the size of your panel (you'll note that elsewhere the article argues that where you need statistically significant results you need at least 20 users and more if you need tight confidence intervals). Rather the size of your panel should be determined by your required confidence intervals, and when identifying usability issues is your main concern they don't need to be tight.

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