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Re: Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone

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Post by kf »

dilap wrote: post #62
kf wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

...living in evolving anarchy has benefits though. I suspect that San Francisco’s open air drug market with dangerously cheap methamphetamine is one of the dirty secrets behind the engine of creation of Silicon Valley.

Interesting theory; from what I've seen though, it's fueled more by Adderral scrips.

There’s lots of that too. My theory implies that a bunch of people that say they’re taking adderall are actually doing a little meth before they get on the Google bus because it’s cheaper and easier to get.

Re: Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone

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Post by ashtonkem »

sharemywin wrote: post #10

According to a June 10 article by City Journal, hip hop artist Raz Simone acts as "co-leader and enforcer" of the Zone, while former mayoral candidate Nikkita Oliver formulates the commune's political aims.[24] However, according to Simone, the Zone has no central leadership, with all residents serving as leaders https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitol_Hill_Autonomous_Zone

Enforcer is a pretty loaded word.

Re: Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone

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Post by FireBeyond »

balls187 wrote: post #46

Capitol Hill's police precinct has been abandoned, however, police are still responding to 9-1-1 calls to the area. This feels very much overblown. Seattle Times has an article that outlines similar "occupy" protests. https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/welcome-to-the-cap...

There was almost an air of disappointment from SPD that the police station _wasn't_ burned down. It seemed that they were threatening that it was only a matter of time, "We told you so"-style. But alas.

Re: Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone

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Post by spoopyskelly »

Pfhreak wrote: post #40
jerf wrote: post #21

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No, not even remotely "by all accounts". There are plenty of accounts that isn't "cool and unique" but is just another place ruled by violent thugs: https://www.reddit.com/r/Seattle/comments/h077uv/raz_simone_... I'm not passing judgment yet since the days are young and the political bias on the ground is thick in both directions. But it is definitely not "by all accounts". But my personal bias on the table is that y…

I watched that video, I saw someone coming in and defacing peoples homes. The people filming asked if they had permission, then asked the person to stop. The person refused to stop painting and pushed the group of folks and there was a scuffle that ended with the tagger walking away. Aside, intentionally or unintentionally, calling a group of predominantly black people "thugs" is a common dog whistle.

They are thugs because they beat up people, threaten to shoot them and ask for protection tax. Your internalized racism is showing.

Re: Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone

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Post by jdhn »

Minor49er wrote: post #65
jdhn wrote: post #52

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As someone who currently lives near Detroit, the city is faring remarkably well in light of everything that's been going on. I haven't heard anything about rioters, just people who are peacefully protesting.

I'm referring to Detroit circa 1967

I think it would take a lot more than this to get Seattle to resemble Detroit in 1967.

Re: Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone

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Post by dang »

All: this story is here because it's an interesting phenomenon, a la https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. Before commenting, please make sure you're up to date on those rules and post in the intended spirit (curiosity and conversation) not the opposite one (ideology and battle).

Re: Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone

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Post by dagnabbit »

spoopyskelly wrote: post #75
Pfhreak wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I watched that video, I saw someone coming in and defacing peoples homes. The people filming asked if they had permission, then asked the person to stop. The person refused to stop painting and pushed the group of folks and there was a scuffle that ended with the tagger walking away. Aside, intentionally or unintentionally, calling a group of predominantly black people "thugs" is a common dog whistle.

They are thugs because they beat up people, threaten to shoot them and ask for protection tax. Your internalized racism is showing.

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Re: Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone

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Post by malandrew »

Two fascinating observations I've seen others have point out that are worth pondering:

- One of the first things they did after seizing six city blocks is setting up a border and controlling who enters the CHAZ

- How would the media have reacted if right-wing groups had commandeered several city blocks of any American city?

This is super interesting to watch unfold.

Re: Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone

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Post by muricula »

malandrew wrote: post #79

Two fascinating observations I've seen others have point out that are worth pondering: - One of the first things they did after seizing six city blocks is setting up a border and controlling who enters the CHAZ - How would the media have reacted if right-wing groups had commandeered several city blocks of any American city? This is super interesting to watch unfold.

I live down the block. Anyone can wander in. If you're a local politician or an unfriendly news org you might be yelled at by protestors, but that shouldn't be a surprise.
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