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Reddit Welcomes Michael Seibel to Board of Directors

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Re: Reddit Welcomes Michael Seibel to Board of Directors

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Post by apatters »

leesec wrote: post #134

Please get rid of the flow where it shows me other threads when I click on the comments of a current thread. I'm never going to switch to a new thread from the comments. I just want to read the comments.

Why don't we just tell it like it is? The majority of comments here reflect the fact that Reddit is a garbage site run by a garbage company. Used to be great, more garbage every day. They leverage network effect to abuse their users and to suck. I look forward to the day they fail and the free market replaces them.

Re: Reddit Welcomes Michael Seibel to Board of Directors

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Post by jedberg »

Digory wrote: post #194
LyndsySimon wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was explicitly not taking a position on the action itself. I’m honestly interested to see how this might open a company to litigation.

1. A director looks more like an employee post-AB5, so it could be employment discrimination in California. 2. Independent contractors are protected against some race-based mistreatment in California. 3. The Unruh Act prohibits California businesses from race discrimination in offering “advantages” and “privileges” to non employees. 4. The next employee fired will have a much better case that their employment was ter…

Section 2750.3 of the California Labor Code was added by AB5, and specifically excludes board members as employees.

Re: Reddit Welcomes Michael Seibel to Board of Directors

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Post by JimDabell »

hazz99 wrote: post #93
jstgord wrote: post #87

Dear Reddit, for the love of Mike .. PLEASE treat reddit as a web-first platform. You are killing the golden goose by trying to force people toward the app - by gradually removing features and usability from the mobile web site and constantly reminding people they "should" use the app. I don't want reddit as an 'app', I want reddit to be readable/scrollable on mobile and web without any form of coercion.

I don't think they're killing it. Anecdotally, all my friends prefer the app and the redesign to the old web client. I suspect this anecdata is supported by Reddit's metrics, otherwise they wouldn't be pushing so hard for it (barring some other long term goal) Not that I like the changes. I much prefer the old version.

If Reddit's metrics confirmed that people preferred the app, they wouldn't have to push so hard for it.

Re: Reddit Welcomes Michael Seibel to Board of Directors

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Post by nexuist »

TA0X6 wrote: post #213
nexuist wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't have to use a hosting service; you can purchase servers by yourself and run your own datacenter without ever involving a third party. Payment processors are not required; you can accept physical checks or digital currency such as Bitcoin without involving a third party processor. A bank isn't allowed to close your account unless you do something illegal, so aren't you safe there? Modern day conveniences lik…

Not sure what part of "payment processors can discriminate" you don't understand. Even if you purchased your own hardware, your ISP, the payment processor you use to pay your ISP, your registrar, the payment processor you use to pay your registrar, etc. are not neutral entities. That makes "host your own" meaningless.

The payment processor I use to pay my ISP and registrar like...my bank account?

To date I have never heard of anyone having their Internet cut off because their ISP did not like their political views. I am pretty sure neonazis are welcome to use all ISPs, from Comcast to Cox.

Re: Reddit Welcomes Michael Seibel to Board of Directors

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Post by digitaltrees »

cmdshiftf4 wrote: post #221
digitaltrees wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except that no one says white people that hire friends--most of which are white friends from their childhood and school background--are racially motivated and yet the impact is white people hire more white people. This implicit bias might not be intended to be harmful, but it is racially informed. If we, as a society say we need to make a conscious effort to have more decision makers from a variety of backgrounds so…

Yes - in-group bias is a real thing and is prominent across all races, ethnicities, religions, nationalities etc. But in-group bias has literally nothing to do with the conversation we're having here.

Yes it does. Building a board and management team that is more representative of the demographics in society is an effort to reduce the effect of in group bias.

This is important because the argument that someone picked with their race in mind to achieve this goal is used to create the subtext that the person would not otherwise have been qualified and is used to undermine their legitimacy and the legitimacy of the goal to eliminate in group bias.

This is a real problem because it distorts the discussion from the real argument. In reality if we want a true meritocracy, as most proponents of anti affirmative action / opponents diversity goals claim then we should want the widest funnel of candidates possible. What we actually have is a small funnel of people that, while not intentionally racist, classist or discriminatory, results in exclusion of many people. We’re all worse of for it.

Re: Reddit Welcomes Michael Seibel to Board of Directors

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Post by george_kaplan »

ori_b wrote: post #88
jstgord wrote: post #87

Dear Reddit, for the love of Mike .. PLEASE treat reddit as a web-first platform. You are killing the golden goose by trying to force people toward the app - by gradually removing features and usability from the mobile web site and constantly reminding people they "should" use the app. I don't want reddit as an 'app', I want reddit to be readable/scrollable on mobile and web without any form of coercion.

That goose already got killed with the new UI. It's only usable via old.reddit.com now.

It's been only usable with RES and lots of filters for a long time.

Re: Reddit Welcomes Michael Seibel to Board of Directors

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Post by 0xy »

apatters wrote: post #231
leesec wrote: post #134

Please get rid of the flow where it shows me other threads when I click on the comments of a current thread. I'm never going to switch to a new thread from the comments. I just want to read the comments.

Why don't we just tell it like it is? The majority of comments here reflect the fact that Reddit is a garbage site run by a garbage company. Used to be great, more garbage every day. They leverage network effect to abuse their users and to suck. I look forward to the day they fail and the free market replaces them.

The quality of engineering is certainly either just totally incompetent or willfully bad. The new site is a mess. It's mind-bogglingly slow, and it feels like it was built by 10 junior React engineers who were given 3 weeks to complete it.

It's worse in every way. Significantly slower, less information, more ads, more distractions, dark patterns everywhere and it just looks bad.

When you see the behavior of the leadership of the company it's no surprise they manage this level of incompetence.

The manipulation by power mods, advertising agencies and political shills is unparalleled.

Re: Reddit Welcomes Michael Seibel to Board of Directors

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Post by MrJagil »

apatters wrote: post #231
leesec wrote: post #134

Please get rid of the flow where it shows me other threads when I click on the comments of a current thread. I'm never going to switch to a new thread from the comments. I just want to read the comments.

Why don't we just tell it like it is? The majority of comments here reflect the fact that Reddit is a garbage site run by a garbage company. Used to be great, more garbage every day. They leverage network effect to abuse their users and to suck. I look forward to the day they fail and the free market replaces them.

I have quite an intricate system build up to get the most quality out of reddit as poossible —it’s still quite bad, but it’s better. I have been thinking of making a blog post or soemthing about it.

- I have a multireddit with select magic the gathering subs

- I have a multireddit with select tech subs

- I have a multireddit with general high quality subs

- My “all” feed has HUNDREDS of subs filtered off. This is a life long excersice. Whenever I see a meme on “all”, i filter that sub away.

I have customized FB as well, removing every CS element on the site except the shortcuts list for groups on the left, where I can acess a few important groups.

My main problem is Twitter now. Why the fuck is every american news in the form of a tweet? The site is awful to use, and I really don’t want anothet SoMe account.

Re: Reddit Welcomes Michael Seibel to Board of Directors

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Post by quantummkv »

henryfjordan wrote: post #53

Why stick to the insular Silicon Valley club and not get someone who's devoted their life to civil rights? There are a ton of community activists who could actually bring a fresh perspective. EDIT: I do not mean to question his particular qualifications or his commitment to change, only to comment on the fact that it could have been someone from a different walk of life. Tech leadership in Silicon Valley does not app…

> Why stick to the insular Silicon Valley club and not get someone who's devoted their life to civil rights? There are a ton of community activists who could actually bring a fresh perspective.

They would. But the sad cold truth of the matter is that no one wants a fresh perspective. They just want to virtue signal the mob as much as they can to preempt the mob storm troopers before they get stoned and cancelled without affecting their business, which is why the pick is a Silicon Valley insider, someone they are sure knows what's best for business and won't try to destroy the business.

> Tech leadership in Silicon Valley does not appear inclined to affect change.

Exactly. Everyone wants change and revolution and mob violence as long as it is outside their gated community. No one, either the rich black NBA players or the Pirates of the Silicon Valley, want change and mobs in their gated community. They really like it as it is.

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