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Reddit Welcomes Michael Seibel to Board of Directors

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Re: Reddit Welcomes Michael Seibel to Board of Directors

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Post by offa »

dropit_sphere wrote: post #198
esperent wrote: post #129

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It's not that complicated. Start by working to deal with the platform being used to spread racism and hate speach and go from there.

I happen to be a member of a subreddit you'd probably describe as "racism and hate speech." Obviously I find some redeeming value there. IMO the direction you're describing seems...reactive? I mean, sure, if you don't like racism and hate speech, work to get rid of them, but there's a lot more to social good than that. Frankly I think Reddit should actively try and fragment itself a bit---give mods more power, let co…

What subreddit would that be, if you don't mind me asking?

Re: Reddit Welcomes Michael Seibel to Board of Directors

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Post by gpm »

esperent wrote: post #129
missosoup wrote: post #86

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What exactly is 'social good', in your mind?

It's not that complicated. Start by working to deal with the platform being used to spread racism and hate speach and go from there.

It is that complicated.

How do you deal with balancing free speech and a healthy market place of ideas with stopping the spread of racism and hate speech.

How do you contribute to countering these ideas you don't like instead of causing them to just move to another platform and increase division of opinions as people stop talking to other.

How do you avoid moderation actions against some communities negatively impact other communities as the people from the 'banned' community flee to the unbanned one.

How do you ensure consistent high quality moderation without going bankrupt.

The list goes on and on. High quality moderation is not a solved problem, we don't really even know what it looks like at scale.

Re: Reddit Welcomes Michael Seibel to Board of Directors

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Post by dropit_sphere »

offa wrote: post #201
dropit_sphere wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I happen to be a member of a subreddit you'd probably describe as "racism and hate speech." Obviously I find some redeeming value there. IMO the direction you're describing seems...reactive? I mean, sure, if you don't like racism and hate speech, work to get rid of them, but there's a lot more to social good than that. Frankly I think Reddit should actively try and fragment itself a bit---give mods more power, let co…

What subreddit would that be, if you don't mind me asking?

I'd rather not say. I happen to like it existing.

Re: Reddit Welcomes Michael Seibel to Board of Directors

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Post by dbuder »

krelian wrote: post #147
jstgord wrote: post #87

Dear Reddit, for the love of Mike .. PLEASE treat reddit as a web-first platform. You are killing the golden goose by trying to force people toward the app - by gradually removing features and usability from the mobile web site and constantly reminding people they "should" use the app. I don't want reddit as an 'app', I want reddit to be readable/scrollable on mobile and web without any form of coercion.

>You are killing the golden goose by trying to force people toward the app I think this is the the type of requests that shows the disconnect between the HN crowd and real users. The majority of users will use the app. It's entirely in reddit's benefit to push the app, that's where they have complete control and can add more tracking and ads without the hindrance of ad/tracking blockers. old.reddit.com is all I use b…

You're basically saying that people who understand what is going on don't like it and people that don't understand what is going on don't care and that is a disconnect where those that understand are wrong to complain.

Re: Reddit Welcomes Michael Seibel to Board of Directors

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Post by mindfulplay »

gerdesj wrote: post #118
mindfulplay wrote: post #17

A dumb but serious question: what powers does a board of directors have? In terms of day to day operations, engineering, product, marketing and so on?

Bear in mind that not all companies are quite as big as this lot. I don't know the actual stats for any country but I think that small companies are quite important in terms of additive scale. In general your small company has a nasty habit of hiring people, abiding by the rules and paying taxes. So, I happen to be a Managing Director of a small company (UK) - we have 20 odd employees and a t/o of ~£1.5M. We are a pr…

I like this honest explanation. Thank you.

Re: Reddit Welcomes Michael Seibel to Board of Directors

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Post by sudosysgen »

ihuman wrote: post #137
screye wrote: post #124

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> new redesign on mobile web is so bad The funniest part is plenty of 3rd party apps had been doing an amazing job already. All reedit had to do was acquire one of them on the cheap or steal design cues from the ones that were most popular. Instead they created this monstrosity which till date lags behind many 3rd party apps in features and fluidity. > old.reddit RES is the only way to use reddit, and they can pry it…

> All reedit had to do was acquire one of them on the cheap or steal design cues from the ones that were most popular. They already tried this with Alien Blue

Why didn't they keep it?

Re: Reddit Welcomes Michael Seibel to Board of Directors

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Post by dbuder »

dvtrn wrote: post #151
bradlys wrote: post #141

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> All people are asking for is _one_ outsider voice on the board. I'm curious what people think the end result of such a thing would be. Does having an outside voice actually contribute to better outcomes for the company? Is there a reason people couldn't just advocate for the current board to listen to other people in their time rather than having a dedicated "outside voice" position? I've seen outsiders come into c…

You know what? You’re right. Let’s call this what it is: pure virtue signaling. Now that that’s done, what’s next? How can we boost the signal? I like this particular virtue. I think it’s worthy and achievable and more people should be able to tune into it. Admittedly I’m biased as a person with a few differently complexities of melanin in my skin, that has been treated like an outsider in so many different ways, but…

>What’s to lose? The integrity of Reddit because they put a black man at the helm? Eh. Worth a shot in my opinion.

You have no skin in the game, sell all your possessions and put it all on black in Vegas, worth a shot in my opinion.

Re: Reddit Welcomes Michael Seibel to Board of Directors

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Post by iknowstuff »

buzzkillington wrote: post #157
krelian wrote: post #147

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>You are killing the golden goose by trying to force people toward the app I think this is the the type of requests that shows the disconnect between the HN crowd and real users. The majority of users will use the app. It's entirely in reddit's benefit to push the app, that's where they have complete control and can add more tracking and ads without the hindrance of ad/tracking blockers. old.reddit.com is all I use b…

>The majority of users will use the app. In the same way that the majority of users use pintrest. Until you train them to close the site out of reflex.

You bring up a good point. There is certainly a line, which, when crossed, will nudge more users to download the app, but also make the site unappealing to the point of avoiding it or clicking away. This might be a long-term, difficult to track&diagnose consequence of the dark pattern.

Re: Reddit Welcomes Michael Seibel to Board of Directors

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Post by OldFatCactus »

buzzkillington wrote: post #159
austincheney wrote: post #21

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That being said please make Reddit more like HN. I deleted my Reddit account years ago. In the cases where it wasn’t a doomed echo chamber vortex it was stupid framework trend of the moment, which isn’t interesting when your primary concerns are technology and programming.

HN is literally a reddit clone.

HN is reddit for people that make six-figures and casually discuss eugenics

Re: Reddit Welcomes Michael Seibel to Board of Directors

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Post by snowmaker »

jdoliner wrote: post #56
jedieaston wrote: post #11

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I mean, HN isn’t really relevant as an asset to ycombinator besides a advertising asset, right? It has a couple million monthly users, maybe 1 new feature a year, and runs on a single core. It’s more of a demonstration of Arc than anything, right?

HN is an asset to YC because the partners are degenerate HN junkies like the rest of us on here, many are worse. More seriously it helps a lot with YC recruitment and is actually how they run a lot of YC. It also allows for YC company job listings as others have mentioned. I don't think it's been written in Arc for a while.

As a YC partner who read this comment buried deep in the comment tree, I think ... I would have to plead guilty to your charge.
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