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Why the Quick Bar (“dickbar”) is still so offensive

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Re: Why the Quick Bar (“dickbar”) is still so offensive

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Post by officemonkey »

zecho wrote: post #37
Skroob wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is an interesting idea that I haven't seen before. Why shouldn't Twitter target trends at me? They know my tweets, and tweets of the people I follow. They could target trends, and ads for that matter, that I'd actually like to see.

Maybe they don't want to get into the targeted advertising market and see themselves more as general advertising? That said, you still don't see ads for women's lingerie during the World Series and you don't see many beer ads during Dancing with the Stars. There's a balance and I don't think twitter has it figured out yet.

>Maybe they don't want to get into the targeted advertising market and see themselves more as general advertising?

Then I think they completely missed the boat.

The whole conceit of twitter is _you decide_ who to follow. They don't even start you out with a Myspace-esque Tom. Every user's timeline is unique.

So, if I'm following Roger Ebert, Kevin Smith, and Netflix, don't you think I would be receptive to DVD advertisements? Similarly, if I'm following Pogue, Mossberg, and Gruber, wouldn't I be receptive to iPhone app ads?

Re: Why the Quick Bar (“dickbar”) is still so offensive

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Post by rapind »

daimyoyo wrote: post #41
daimyoyo wrote: post #39

I deleted the twitter app from my phone as soon as I realized the dickbar was something I couldn't opt out of. Now I use hootsuite. Deceit UI, multiple accounts, and I can post across accounts and(something twitter doesn't do) schedule tweets to post at a later time. Twitter had made a serious miscalculation with the dickbar. They've reminded users there are other clients out there they can use. And if twitter decide…

And as an aside, according to http://www.techspot.com/news/40459-twitter-passes-myspace-in... twitter is storing 12TB of data per DAY! Anyone who cannot monetize that volume of data without annoying ads and dickbars doesn't belong in business.

Not that I disagree that they shouldn't be doing a better job with the dickbar thing, but analyzing 12TB of data per day and cross referencing it with petabytes of earlier data does actually seem very challenging. I can't think of too many companies currently doing this, so it's not like you can just google "how to data mine petabytes" to get a step by step tutorial.

Re: Why the Quick Bar (“dickbar”) is still so offensive

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Post by cabalamat »

danilocampos wrote: post #32

Marco nails it. The whole value proposition of Twitter, historically, has been that you can make it whatever you would like it to be . Are you Captain Nerd? Load up that stream with the finest of curated nerds and be soaked in their wisdom, go! Are you nuts about celebrity culture? Sports? Food? Just want to keep up with your friends and colleagues? You're covered. The Dickbar is a violation of that understanding tha…

> Five years from now we'll look back and one of two things will be on our minds

You are probably right. But how, in that case, do Twitter monetize their service?

Re: Why the Quick Bar (“dickbar”) is still so offensive

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Post by wtn »

djcapelis wrote: post #13
forkandwait wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Rather than downvoting my rather heavily caveatted remarks, perhaps you could answer the question: Is there a patent encumbrance that makes this more than a technical problem? EDIT: moved "heavily qualified" to something more idiomatic.

Since it's sometimes considered nice to explain a downvote, I wanted to mention I downvoted you for spending time telling us how qualified you were instead of just restating your question in a simpler way. I don't know why your other post was downvoted, but probably because people think it's not an interesting question, could be determined by actually going to Google yourself and doing your own homework/search and mo…

Literacy fail.

Re: Why the Quick Bar (“dickbar”) is still so offensive

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Post by alnayyir »

cabalamat wrote: post #53
danilocampos wrote: post #32

Marco nails it. The whole value proposition of Twitter, historically, has been that you can make it whatever you would like it to be . Are you Captain Nerd? Load up that stream with the finest of curated nerds and be soaked in their wisdom, go! Are you nuts about celebrity culture? Sports? Food? Just want to keep up with your friends and colleagues? You're covered. The Dickbar is a violation of that understanding tha…

> Five years from now we'll look back and one of two things will be on our minds You are probably right. But how, in that case, do Twitter monetize their service?

>. There are many better ways to monetize the experience here. AdWords-style keyword based stuff being the most obvious, and most likely to be virtuous.

Did you read the comment?

Re: Why the Quick Bar (“dickbar”) is still so offensive

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Post by cabalamat »

alnayyir wrote: post #56
cabalamat wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Five years from now we'll look back and one of two things will be on our minds You are probably right. But how, in that case, do Twitter monetize their service?

>. There are many better ways to monetize the experience here. AdWords-style keyword based stuff being the most obvious, and most likely to be virtuous. Did you read the comment?

I must admit I did miss that part of it blush

Re: Why the Quick Bar (“dickbar”) is still so offensive

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Post by djcapelis »

wtn wrote: post #54
djcapelis wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since it's sometimes considered nice to explain a downvote, I wanted to mention I downvoted you for spending time telling us how qualified you were instead of just restating your question in a simpler way. I don't know why your other post was downvoted, but probably because people think it's not an interesting question, could be determined by actually going to Google yourself and doing your own homework/search and mo…

Literacy fail.

FWIW: Being wrong abut an ambiguous grammar is not a failure of literacy.

Also, your comments contribute what to this discussion?

Re: Why the Quick Bar (“dickbar”) is still so offensive

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Post by ZitchDog »

nhangen wrote: post #57

Meh...get over yourself Marco. Just because you aren't interested in these topics does not mean others are not. That's why they are trending in the first place.

He made a somewhat interesting point around this -- that even if you do hapen to be interested in a trending topic and select it, a bunch of mostly unrelated spamish tweets will be there to greet you when you select the topic.
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