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After 10 years in tech isolation, I’m now outsider to things I once had mastered

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Re: After 10 years in tech isolation, I’m now outsider to things I once had mastered

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Thats an interesting introspective.

It really sounds like he needs to get away from his 12 year old daughter, whom unfortunately doesn't know him or have an opinion about him but is tolerating his obligatory presence.

Despite the assumptions about tech proficiency thrown onto Millenials and "everyone younger than me while I make excuses about being tech illiterate": Gen Z doesn't know anything about computers, and would have a much more foreign form of "meaningful human interaction" than what really is happening.

Re: After 10 years in tech isolation, I’m now outsider to things I once had mastered

#292

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FWIW, the rest of the world considers prison sentences in the US to be absurdly long. This guy apparently got 10 years for hacking; in much of Europe, you'd get less than that for murder.

> in much of Europe, you'd get less than that for murder Citation needed.

Colloquially Americans like to call "murder" any time someone kills someone else.

In Germany the translation of murder has VERY specific legal requirements, like detailed planning beforhand, and evil action (cannibalism, sexual intent, terrorism, type stuff). You pretty much have to be a stereotypical serial killer or terrorist in Germany to commit the legal definition of murder.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_in_German_law#Penalties

In the USA, colloquially speaking, not legally speaking, George Floyd was murdered. But in Germany what happened would seem to meet the equivalent of what Americans would call involuntary manslaughter. Clearly, the cops killed that dude while trying to do something vaguely reminiscent of their job, but also clearly, they did not stalk him with evil intent with an intentional plan for a long time and then cannibalize or sexually molest his body as would be required by the legal definition in Germany. Probably.

Historically, in Germany, involuntary manslaughter such as two idiot soldiers who don't know each other getting into a drunken bar fight over nothing while one had an undiagnosed brain anuresm that burst during or shortly after the fight will only get like three year sentence and who knows how early of a release. In America that event would colloquially be called "murder", because one person killed another person, but not so much from a strictly legal perspective in Germany.

Re: After 10 years in tech isolation, I’m now outsider to things I once had mastered

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> This guy apparently got 10 years for hacking; in much of Europe, you'd get less than that for murder. Both of those things are problematic, IMHO. As for US sentences being absurdly long, I attribute that to the privatized (profit-incentivized) prison system here. Abolishing that concept would be a good starting point, I think, because it would eliminate a very large chunk of the humanitarian problems in one fell sw…

Sentencing is decided by a judge not by a prison warden. Beyond vague conspiracy theories I don’t see the connection.

I don't generally consider myself a conspiracy theorist, but I agree with the previous comment. For-profit prisons not only make money by having more prisoners staying for longer, but in many cases have actually been required to maintain a minimum number of prisoners. That creates a huge incentive to the operators of private prisons to make sure that people are sentenced to terms that are as long as possible, and to make sure that as many people as possible are given sentences that get them into those prisons vs. alternatives like house arrest, community service, court-ordered rehabilitation meeting attendance, etc.

I think it would be pretty naive to assume that private actors can have no influence over an unelected/appointed judiciary anyway, but don't forget that many places in the United States have an elected judiciary that needs to campaign every few years to maintain their status, which clearly opens them up to influence by those prisons.

Re: After 10 years in tech isolation, I’m now outsider to things I once had mastered

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post #286

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FWIW, the rest of the world considers prison sentences in the US to be absurdly long. This guy apparently got 10 years for hacking; in much of Europe, you'd get less than that for murder.

Plea bargaining, for better or worse, is a uniquely American invention the rest of the world does not share. Committing naughtiness level 5 on a scale of 1 to 10 crime in "EU" and in "USA" and you'll get a punishment of X years for a level 5 conviction in EU. In the USA you'll get a plea bargain offer of X years for agreeing to be guilty of a level 3 crime, or you can take your chances at a trial for a level 5 crime…

> About 90% to 98% of criminals take the plea.

Shouldn't that be 90 to 98% of charged suspects? The incentive to take the plea deal exists whether the suspect is actually guilty or not.

Re: After 10 years in tech isolation, I’m now outsider to things I once had mastered

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> "Caging me for a decade is not rehabilitating. I may be making excuses for myself, though there is a lesson that could have been learned with the same amount of value for justice if the sentence was 2 years, 3 years, 5 years, even 6 years." From the article at: https://forklog.media/ex-convicted-hacker-ghostexodus-severi... I don't consider myself a bleeding heart lib but I think that a decade in prison is excessiv…

In the UK, crime against property regularly attracts harsh sentencing; crime against the person not so much. Why? I think it perpetuates our historical values. The Government believes we're expendable, although useful enough to pay tax.

It’s because our system of justice is designed to protect Capital, not people.

Re: After 10 years in tech isolation, I’m now outsider to things I once had mastered

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... "I'd love to help you, but I don't use Windows so might not be able to. But let's take a look, since you're my friend and all and I want you to be happy"?

The truth is I am now actually incompetent to help my Windows-using family and friends. The answer is that I really can't help, no matter how much goodwill applies. I recently poked at a friend's Windows10 machine that was having networking issues (probably DNS or proxy settings)... couldn't even find the right sort of settings to paly around with. The whole thing is a mystery wrapped in an enigma to me and causes me…

What? Really? If you're being placed in front of a different OS than what you use you loose basic troubleshooting capabilities?

Look, I'm not using Windows nor OSX very often, when people ask me for help, I mostly start out as helpless as them. But programmers (or generally computer literate, or whatever you wanna call it) seem to have way better searching skills, even for things they have no idea about.

So yeah, helping people with the windows/osx setup sucks, because I'm completely lost. But if you're a linux user, you're probably used to searching for knowledge in order to gain it. This also works for others OSes.

I'd understand if you don't want to help them out of principle, but please don't call yourself incompetent when so many people have it so much "worse". Mention "DNS" or "proxy" and they'll think you're speaking yiddish.

Re: After 10 years in tech isolation, I’m now outsider to things I once had mastered

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> “That’s the stupidest thing ever!,” I yelled at the TV. “Who’d want to put their greasy fingers all over a screen like that?” Apparently, everybody. Including me. An aside, but I never understood microphobics and grease-phobics... Perhaps it's part of not having grown in a 100% clinical/artificial urban environment my whole life. Yeah, you'll get some dirt on you and your things. Big deal...

I assumed that the author was thinking about screens 10 years ago, which didn't have oleophobic coatings yet. So fingerprints and smudges built up in layers really fast and made it hard to read the screen.

Re: After 10 years in tech isolation, I’m now outsider to things I once had mastered

#298

Alt account for obvious reasons. In 2003 I was sentenced to 6 years in a Texas prison. The how and why isn't relevant, other than to say it was a terrible mistake I made seven years prior. At that point, I was about 5 years into my tech career. I wasn't in there for a "hacker" crime, so I was in general population, and had more freedom than the author did. As for prison conditions, not much I can add to the conversat…

What are prison games?

Re: After 10 years in tech isolation, I’m now outsider to things I once had mastered

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post #287

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Us has the highest verified incarceration per capita in the world and the largest number of total prisoners. So at least by verified numbers it's not really even close, the US is by far the worst. Are the numbers accurate for China or other oppressive regimes? Who knows and North Korea doesn't release numbers but they're thought to be close to or slightly higher than the US' per capita numbers. https://www.prisonstud…

And then you have countries that execute much higher amount of people, cut their hands or whip them. Incarceration rates are not the only thing in play.

True but we also execute people in the US, our prisons have despicable living conditions and we routinely use solitary confinement which could be considered a form of torture by some.

Re: After 10 years in tech isolation, I’m now outsider to things I once had mastered

#300

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This guy apparently got 10 years for hacking; in much of Europe, you'd get less than that for murder. Both of those things are problematic, IMHO. As for US sentences being absurdly long, I attribute that to the privatized (profit-incentivized) prison system here. Abolishing that concept would be a good starting point, I think, because it would eliminate a very large chunk of the humanitarian problems in one fell sw…

Sentencing is decided by a judge not by a prison warden. Beyond vague conspiracy theories I don’t see the connection.

>Beyond vague conspiracy theories I don’t see the connection.

It's not vague at all. Private prisons lobby for mandatory minimums. Mandatory minimums remove sentencing power from the judge: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_sentencing

The older system you describe is called discretionary sentencing, it is a dissipating vestige of the era before private prisons.

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