I love what Pine is trying to do, but man those A53 CPUs and Mali-400 GPUs are really pretty crummy. Similarly spec'd Allwinner chips were on the PlayStation Classic and Nintendo Classic microconsoles.
Pinetab – 10.1″ Linux Tablet with Detached Backlit Keyboard
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#112This is interesting to me because I'm in the market for a new tablet. Is this more of a hacker device (IR blaster, odd assortment of ports, full OS, etc.) or consumer? It should ideally pass the wife test...
the mild sexism wasn't necessary
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#113Took me quite a while, but I finally got my order in.
It'll come, eventually, I hope.
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#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
Try mining cryptocurrency, running prime95, playing fps shooters, or even dota on high settings. You will notice the battery draining while plugged in. You also see it if you are on an airplane, but that is usually because the charger tries to pull too much and overheats and gives up ghost. Macbooks have underpowered chargers.
> Macbooks have underpowered chargers. My 16” shipped with a 96 watt charger, and I’ve not seen a laptop with a higher powered one. I’d have to contend with that assertion.
My current Dell laptop uses a 240 watt charger
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#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
Try mining cryptocurrency, running prime95, playing fps shooters, or even dota on high settings. You will notice the battery draining while plugged in. You also see it if you are on an airplane, but that is usually because the charger tries to pull too much and overheats and gives up ghost. Macbooks have underpowered chargers.
> Macbooks have underpowered chargers. My 16” shipped with a 96 watt charger, and I’ve not seen a laptop with a higher powered one. I’d have to contend with that assertion.
ThinkPad P73 has 230 Watt charger.
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#116This looks wonderful, and I bought it as soon as preorders opened; I'd love to have a Linux tablet to read books on and take to work (I'm a teacher, not a programmer). It definitely is pretty low-powered, though, and I'd appreciate a higher-end alternative. Is there any Windows-based tablet that you can reliably and easily install Linux on?
>Is there any Windows-based tablet that you can reliably and easily install Linux on?
Samsung Series 7 Slate XE700T1A
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#117This looks wonderful, and I bought it as soon as preorders opened; I'd love to have a Linux tablet to read books on and take to work (I'm a teacher, not a programmer). It definitely is pretty low-powered, though, and I'd appreciate a higher-end alternative. Is there any Windows-based tablet that you can reliably and easily install Linux on?
The first generation Surface Go works very well, except for the cameras, which are not supported.
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#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
> What I'd like to know is if it will work with the battery compartment empty on AC power only. The Pinebook laptops can work without a battery while connected to AC, but not out of the box. A simple hardware mod is necessary to enable this, that's documented by Pine.
That is unusual. I have never had a laptop that would not work without a battery present.
It’s really not, especially for high end models if you are stressing your hardware and it’s not an awfully thermally limited design you’ll drain the battery even when you are connected to the charger.
You have 60W chargers usually for systems with max power draw of the CPU+GPU that can reach around 200W peak and in the mid to high 1XXW sustained if you have a DTR/high-performance “mobile” CPU + dGPU.
Even if your laptop comes with a 90W charger it’s still a problem because it’s not enough to power a 65W series H CPU and a high end GPU that draws another 80-120W.
Most laptops will always use the battery directly and trickle charge it due to the power draw.
Power(hungry)ful modern gaming/DTR style laptops can use both concurrently, heck older gaming laptops used to come with multiple power supplies that were needed simply because even the battery wasn’t enough at the time to serve as a buffer, so you had to plug in 2 power adapters to power the laptop fully.
Even without this constraint having a single power path is cheaper and simpler to design so most manufacturers just only draw from the battery and have a separate charging circuit that charges it without having to add power balancing and switching circuitry.
IBM thinkpads used to advertise that you can switch the battery while the laptop was plugged into the charger most laptops of that period didn’t support this either.
If you go even further it was even more of a headache because older laptops used LiPo batteries which were even more finicky.
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#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
I get certificate invalid here..
Try: https://archive.today/Lm8EA https://archive.is/Lm8EA https://archive.fo/Lm8EA https://archive.li/Lm8EA https://archive.vn/Lm8EA https://archive.md/Lm8EA https://archive.ph/Lm8EA One typically works. List: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archive.today Cloudflare is in a grudge match with archive.today: https://community.cloudflare.com/t/archive-is-error-1001/182...
All invalid certs/403, even google webcache is 404ing, how elusive...
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#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
"When fulfilling the purchase, please bear in mind that we are offering the PineTab at this price as a community service to PINE64 communities. If you think that a minor dissatisfaction, such as a dead pixel, will prompt you to file a PayPal dispute then please do not purchase the PineTab. Thank you." no or low amounts of QA significantly reduce cost
With regards to dead pixels, every vendor I know of has terms like this, it's just hidden in the warranty small print, not on the store page: https://support.lenovo.com/ca/en/solutions/ht035306 https://appleinsider.com/articles/10/11/05/leaked_apple_dead...
I wonder what are the odds of finding dead pixels today. I saw lots of them in the past, and in a few cases they were really nasty to stand (imagine a pixel stuck at full brightness in the center of a screen mostly containing dark terminals) , but admittedly in the last 10 years or so I can't remember of a single one. However, although all vendors bury the dead pixel disclaimer, being so open about it makes one wonder if their quality checks are cheaper than others.
I would happily pay more to be 100% sure there are no dead pixels btw.