I wrote a lot of PHP from 1999-2008. First as a hobby, then professionally. From 20 LOC guestbooks to payment gateways used to process millions in payments. It wasn't until recently that I was sure I'd written more code in any other language than PHP. These days I'll occasionally poke around with it or patch a bug, but that's about it. Is it a perfect language? No. But which language is? (I can hear the Lisp crowd gr…
25 Years of PHP
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Re: 25 Years of PHP
#192I wrote a lot of PHP from 1999-2008. First as a hobby, then professionally. From 20 LOC guestbooks to payment gateways used to process millions in payments. It wasn't until recently that I was sure I'd written more code in any other language than PHP. These days I'll occasionally poke around with it or patch a bug, but that's about it. Is it a perfect language? No. But which language is? (I can hear the Lisp crowd gr…
I'm firmly in the Lisp crowd. I loved to hate PHP until I was forced to dig into it to help a friend set up a Wordpress site. And now I don't hate it any more. It does the job it was designed to do in a reasonably non-horrible way. I don't think I'd ever try to build a Facebook-scale app with it ;-), but as the BASIC of web site creation, it doesn't completely suck.
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> The only ceremony you need to write executable code is the This is a really underappreciated aspect to development in general and web development in particular. There are (or at least were) an awful lot of "shared hosting" providers which are cheap, convenient, and run PHP and CGI only .
ColdFusion, Java Server Pages, and other languages copied this syntax. I don’t see it anymore except with php. Does anyone know of any other languages still in use that have this?
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#194I wrote a lot of PHP from 1999-2008. First as a hobby, then professionally. From 20 LOC guestbooks to payment gateways used to process millions in payments. It wasn't until recently that I was sure I'd written more code in any other language than PHP. These days I'll occasionally poke around with it or patch a bug, but that's about it. Is it a perfect language? No. But which language is? (I can hear the Lisp crowd gr…
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#195Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm firmly in the Lisp crowd. I loved to hate PHP until I was forced to dig into it to help a friend set up a Wordpress site. And now I don't hate it any more. It does the job it was designed to do in a reasonably non-horrible way. I don't think I'd ever try to build a Facebook-scale app with it ;-), but as the BASIC of web site creation, it doesn't completely suck.
facebook was built and grew in php tho
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#196After several years now of defaulting to Go, in the last month I've gone back to PHP (specifically Laravel) for a new project. It's... comfortable. That's probably the best way I can describe how I feel about it. I've missed working in PHP, despite how much I enjoy Go.
I wish Go had something as convenient and complete as Laravel. Unfortunately that's impossible to achieve in a static language without polymorphism (generics) or metaprogramming.
I'm waiting for Go to introduce polymorphism and I'll be watching closely to see how 'post-generics' web frameworks make Go great again!
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With modern monitors being as large as they are already, I'd say the need for a vertical monitor is likely an indication you're working with spaghetti code.
With modern monitors being as large as they are already, I'd say the need for a landscape monitor is likely an indication you are working in callback hell.
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What do you mean? They do offer licenses for individuals, and I've had a personal license for over seven years now.
He might be referring to the UX problem they have on the sales page where it is non-intuitive that you have to click a button to switch to the individual pricing. This affected me recently.
I'd never have even looked at their site again if I hadn't happened to read these posts. Yikes. They need to call that out much more vividly if they're gonna have weird pricing like that.
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#199I wrote a lot of PHP from 1999-2008. First as a hobby, then professionally. From 20 LOC guestbooks to payment gateways used to process millions in payments. It wasn't until recently that I was sure I'd written more code in any other language than PHP. These days I'll occasionally poke around with it or patch a bug, but that's about it. Is it a perfect language? No. But which language is? (I can hear the Lisp crowd gr…
While I agree that PHP does have pros as well as cons, I find it disconcerting that I've read MANY assertions here on HN, that PHP detractors just haven't used it very much or are mostly complaining about things like bad standard library function names. I've used PHP in earnest. It and JavaScript are tied for worst programming languages I've used. JavaScript gets more of a "pass" from me because I'm just not a dynami…
I think it’s important to distinguish between a language, and its environment and ecosystem. That’s where PHP shines. I wouldn’t choose PHP for my own projects, but with the tooling and frameworks available I actually don’t mind working on it for money.
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#200It’s fast, easy to get into and does the job for me.