Any pointers at SW that can build timelines in a similar way? I would like to get product roadmaps out in a similar way if it can be kept light weight.
25 Years of PHP
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#12PHP is damn fast now, no joke. And with all of the modern features it's actually not so bad to work in. I'm becoming increasingly puzzled every time I see PHP hate now, especially when I read tired comments like "just use rails". Laravel is arguably as good or even better than rails at this point, and PHP 7+ is definitely light years faster and lighter. One thing that still sucks is package management / composer.
What are the "modern" features of php? It looks like it's trying to shed it's dynamic nature and add types (with annotations etc). Also frameworks like Symfony / Laravel look more and more like java web frameworks to me.
I'm not saying this is necessarily bad but there's nothing modern about types. Also, might make more sense to choose java if you need types.
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#13Amazing how many complete rewrites that timeline contains... :)
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tbf i have a 12 year old php game that basically prints money - the only thing i had to change was the old mysql module (which was not even buggy/unsafe - just unmaintained).
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#14Fine. After 20+ years of PHP development I'm going to give it a shot. Will be attempting to migrate from VSCode. Any tips for that transition in particular, or for setting up PHPStorm in general? I have a subscription to Laracasts and plan on watching that series, but I'm not sure if it's outdated. Thanks!
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#15PHP is damn fast now, no joke. And with all of the modern features it's actually not so bad to work in. I'm becoming increasingly puzzled every time I see PHP hate now, especially when I read tired comments like "just use rails". Laravel is arguably as good or even better than rails at this point, and PHP 7+ is definitely light years faster and lighter. One thing that still sucks is package management / composer.
Composer 2 is coming, and so far it’s shaping up to be vastly improved. Also, many people are still using that ‘fractal of bad design’ article from years ago to bash on PHP, even though a number of the assertions are no longer applicable.
Years ago on GitHub when the new Composer logo was just pushed, I commented (on the relevant commit) that it looks more like a "conductor" than a "composer" or perhaps they meant "composer/conductor" which isn't uncommon in the music industry. My comment was promptly deleted. Oh, well.
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> max 3 letters variables are the norm, no blank lines and the only comments are from code copy pasted from examples
It's hardly PHP's fault.
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Ah yes, the classic "my application is shit so the language must be shit" straw man argument.
Sorry to hear you have to work on shitty code. But neither the choice of language nor the lack of framework are to blame. Blame the developers and/or the organizational culture that caused it to be in such a poor state.
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Once or twice a year I have to peak at the code of a C app that was developed by interns more than 10 years ago. No framework was used, max 3 letters variables are the norm, no blank lines and the only comments are from code copy pasted from examples.
These days I would be more inclined to celebrate the death of C than its birthday !
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#19Recently I have been thinking about moving my personal blog from Wordpress to a static site generator, because I don't allow comments or use Wordpress plugins. (Those who want comments can still use a combination of a static site generator and Disqus.) It occurred to me that once I did that, I could completely disable PHP on my Apache installation. It made me wonder how much usage of PHP out there is essentially a hi…
Static site generators are a niche market, whereas blogging is a mass market. The vast majority of WordPress users probably wouldn't know / care about static sites. WordPress is still significantly more convenient and user friendly for your average user
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#20I wish more digital subscription models were more like the jetbrains one. If you paid for one year continously they handle it like you own that specific phpstorm version, even if you cancel your subscription.
That said, I wish I could subscribe without having a company ._.