Thanks for playing, Intel.
Apple will announce move to ARM-based Macs later this month
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#13I envision there being a lot of ARM support issues across apps that I rely on. We finally got over the keyboard drama, I don't have confidence this will go well either.
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#14Now will be a good time to stock up on Intel macs. At least we will still have hackintoshes.
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#15After the last few years of hardware problems with Macs let's see who's the brave one to buy a v1 of any Apple new product (meanwhile there's probably people already making a queue to buy one)
If you look at the problems with the 2016 - 2019 MBP, and also the problems with the first generation intel MBPs, the biggest issue in both cases was heat. (Although there were clearly other issues as well.) The new Apple chips are going to be much more power efficient, so I think there is actually hope here. I still wouldn't buy a v1 because I think they'll have problems, but I think whatever problems they'll have will be less than previous v1s.
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#16Interesting. I imagine they'll have to provide some sort of x86/amd64 compat layer as otherwise this kills every application available for macos right now. I hope they don't also continue to lock down macos (though I imagine they intend to) by restricting applications to only being available from the app store. That would set a terrible precedent for personal computing.
> I imagine they'll have to provide some sort of x86/amd64 compat layer
Just like they did with the mk86->ppc transition, just like they did with the ppc->x86 transition.
> I hope they don't also continue to lock down macos
Let's not confuse moving Macs to ARM processors with turning Macs into iOS devices. Apple has always treated the OS families differently and will continue to do so because they know more than anybody that they meet different needs.
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#17The Verge is a pretty good source, isn’t it?
Isn't this the Verge's summary of the Bloomberg article from Mark Gurman? Why not link to the original article?
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#19Interesting. I imagine they'll have to provide some sort of x86/amd64 compat layer as otherwise this kills every application available for macos right now. I hope they don't also continue to lock down macos (though I imagine they intend to) by restricting applications to only being available from the app store. That would set a terrible precedent for personal computing.
They did it before with Rosetta when they switched to Intel. Times and uses are different, but it'd be hard to imagine otherwise.
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#20what does this mean for running docker containers on macos?
It means people need to start using buildkit and ship multiarch images. Insane that this is not already the norm. There are other arches beside x64.