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How the Magic: The Gathering Color Wheel Explains Humanity

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Re: How the Magic: The Gathering Color Wheel Explains Humanity

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Post by swebs »

notkaiho wrote: post #136
swebs wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What did he say that was false?

I don't want to derail the discussion with irrelevant material, but to suggest that eating a beef-only diet cures autoimmune disorders is utterly unsupported by medical science, for one.

Well he has a PHD in clinical psychology, not nutrition. I think people like the OP throw these jabs at him purely because they're angry he spoke out against the Canadian pronoun law, rather than any complaints about the validity of his research itself.

Re: How the Magic: The Gathering Color Wheel Explains Humanity

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Post by minitech »

NoOneNew wrote: post #138
swebs wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What did he say that was false?

Take responsibility for your actions. Take care of both your mental and physical health. Do something important with your life that's meaningful to you. Respect yourself. Life is bloody hard and you should be easy on yourself when you screw up. As long as you learn something from your mistakes and attempt to push forward again with new found knowledge, you're on the right path. Clean up your room. All of that is the…

You can sarcastically toss out a list of uncontroversial useful or true things that have been said by literally anyone, no matter how often they’ve otherwise been wrong or harmful. It’s not a refutation.

Re: How the Magic: The Gathering Color Wheel Explains Humanity

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Post by NoOneNew »

minitech wrote: post #142
NoOneNew wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Take responsibility for your actions. Take care of both your mental and physical health. Do something important with your life that's meaningful to you. Respect yourself. Life is bloody hard and you should be easy on yourself when you screw up. As long as you learn something from your mistakes and attempt to push forward again with new found knowledge, you're on the right path. Clean up your room. All of that is the…

You can sarcastically toss out a list of uncontroversial useful or true things that have been said by literally anyone, no matter how often they’ve otherwise been wrong or harmful. It’s not a refutation.

Then by that, everyone's thoughts on anything and everything should be thrown out. Everyone is an asshole if you dig deep enough. There is no such thing as a perfect person.

Re: How the Magic: The Gathering Color Wheel Explains Humanity

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Post by dataduck »

gitrog wrote: post #128
pegasus wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, "explains" is rather strong, but "pseudoscientific mysticism" is straight-up harsh. It's an inevitably subjective way to organize the world of human behavior and motivation. Like colors themselves, which reside just as much in our internal perception of the world as they do in objective physical processes.

I think "pseudoscientific mysticism" is just in response to the fact that many people don't see it as being subjective, but rather objectively measurable/common sense/blatantly obvious.

Surely common sense is subjective? And many blatantly obvious things are not objectively measurable.

Re: How the Magic: The Gathering Color Wheel Explains Humanity

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Post by h0l0cube »

whatshisface wrote: post #80
h0l0cube wrote: post #66

In talking about linking colour to ways of thinking, there's also de Bono's hats: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Thinking_Hats BLUE "The Big Picture" WHITE "Facts & Information" RED "Feelings & Emotions" BLACK "Critical Judgement" YELLOW "Positive" GREEN "New Ideas"

There's also the Whatshisface Schema: BLACK: Big-picture executive thinking. RED: Thinking like a Reddit commenter. (Glib, humorous oneliners) ORANGE: Thinking like a Hackernews commenter. (Glib, contrarian milti-liners.) YELLOW: The color of the sun, sunflowers, lions, and therefore courage and the heart, as in middle ages medicine. GREEN: Thinking about the environment, or money, or both. CYAN: Coming up with busin…

> RED: Thinking like a Reddit commenter. (Glib, humorous oneliners)

You're being way too charitable to Reddit commenters.

Re: How the Magic: The Gathering Color Wheel Explains Humanity

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Post by igravious »

niklasd wrote: post #109
mynegation wrote: post #33

Every time “Magic: The Gathering” is mentioned it seriously throws off my phrase parsing for like half a minute. What about “the magic”? What is “the gathering color wheel”? I wish “Magic: The Gathering” was in quotes.

One of the best law schools in India is called "National Law School of India University". I had a great time there as an exchange student, but boy, there is some heavy parsing involved in that name.

OT:

A number of the (what I have been calling) universities in my country have the seemingly bizarrely redundant labelling "University College X" where X is the locale each is based in. Your comment made me look up why.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_college

It appears that, “In a number of countries, a university college is a college institution that provides tertiary education but does not have full or independent university status. A university college is often part of a larger university. The precise usage varies from country to country.”

So now I realise that there is but one actual university in my country, that being the national university, and all the self-styled "universities" around the country are mere colleges.

Notions!

Re: How the Magic: The Gathering Color Wheel Explains Humanity

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Post by gpderetta »

strbean wrote: post #43
platz wrote: post #36

FYI - you can play mtg (even edh) online with your friends or randos: https://cockatrice.github.io/

And completely for free, without buying packs/cards! You can play with decks that would cost $10,000 to put together with physical cards.

Sharpie on a basic land is a time honoured way to proxy expensive cards in paper magic and perfectly acceptable in many casual circles.

Re: How the Magic: The Gathering Color Wheel Explains Humanity

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Post by prepend »

notkaiho wrote: post #136
swebs wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What did he say that was false?

I don't want to derail the discussion with irrelevant material, but to suggest that eating a beef-only diet cures autoimmune disorders is utterly unsupported by medical science, for one.

I think you’re right. But people have all sorts of crazy diets for unsupported reasons.

I don’t think Peterson is promoting the carnivore diet, but I did hear him explain his diet on a podcast and it seemed pretty couched in curiosity, not resolution. The thing I remember is lots of “I don’t knows” and attribution of any benefits to it being an elimination diet vs any special property of beef.

Re: How the Magic: The Gathering Color Wheel Explains Humanity

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Post by igravious »

mcv wrote: post #135
twic wrote: post #115

Not the author's intent, but the descriptions would make fantastic mottoes for a totalitarian state: PEACE THROUGH ORDER HARMONY THROUGH ACCEPTANCE (of your place in society) PERFECTION THROUGH KNOWLEDGE (of the Party's teachings) FREEDOM THROUGH ACTION (go to work in the factory, that is the true freedom!) SATISFACTION THROUGH RUTHLESSNESS

They have little to do with how Magic works out in practice, though: WHITE: swarm everything with little guys GREEN: trample everything with giant monsters RED: burn everything BLUE: twist everything beyond recognition BLACK: keep dragging up old, dead stuff There's certainly little harmony and acceptance in Green. It's the color of rapid growth, of everything can be bigger. The others I can kinda see if quint at the…

WHITE: defensive, protection from, …

GREEN: creature growth, +1 counters, …

RED: direct attack spells (fireball, lightning strike), …

BLUE: counter-spells, …

BLACK: don't play it (don't know), graveyard stuff?

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COLORLESS: artifacts 'n such

Re: How the Magic: The Gathering Color Wheel Explains Humanity

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Post by YeGoblynQueenne »

gpderetta wrote: post #137
YeGoblynQueenne wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right now it's green closely followed by white. Though I've been too busy to play in the last two months and have so far totally missed Ikoria, it's clear to see that Jamie Wakefield's favourite colour of magic has finally become OP just by the June 1st banned and restricted list: https://magic.wizards.com/en/game-info/gameplay/rules-and-fo... Three of the six cards (still) banned in standard are Green and two of the…

Oh yes green (and GU) has seen a huge boost in the last year of so. It was probably an overcompensation for what was perceived to be the weakest color. I expect white to go through a similar overcorrection in the next year of so. Blue is still the strongest color in Legacy and Vintage I think, even if the last few sets had a huge impact. Also, Oko and Uro are also blue.

>> Also, Oko and Uro are also blue.

True, and as you say UG is a powerful combination, which is also kind of a new thing for me.

Those bans are a pain in the ass. They do it to hamstring the OP decks, which I understand and applaud, because nothing sucks more than having to play 4 copies of the same deck in one event. But then, because a bunch of us are using the same cards in our goofy rogue decks, these decks are also screwed and that ends up reducing diversity also. E.g. the ban of Fires of Invention has just screwed up my RW Giants deck. I mean, it's a Giants deck. About the only thing that made it viable at all was Fires.

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