Quoted from a letter from 1,000 health professionals on the virus and protests [0] >However, as public health advocates, we do not condemn these gatherings as risky for COVID-19 transmission. We support them as vital to the national public health and to the threatened health specifically of Black people in the United States. We can show that support by facilitating safest protesting practices without detracting from…
America is giving up on the pandemic?
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#262Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because they compared governors to Hitler and their plight to how Jews were persecuted during the Holocaust. They also lynched an effigy of a politician they despised. That is why they were the crazy ones.
But there are clear enforceability issues with trying to establish "protests are allowed unless they're crazy" as a rule. Who gets to decide what's crazy?
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#264The article’s authors are losing sight of the original justification for the lockdowns: “flatten the curve” was about preventing hospitals from being overwhelmed. Of course cases will increase when people leave their homes. But have the hospitals been overwhelmed in any of the states that started to reopen several weeks ago? No! In that case the lockdowns have served their purpose. The authors of this article are arg…
Lots of areas have actually mostly eliminated the virus, just not the USA and Europe. Avoiding hospital overwhelm is avoiding the worst case. But if that’s all you do then life is still heavily abnormal until a vaccine.
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No one will take you seriously as a new user with the name "throwmehaweh". If you actually believe the things in your post, I recommend you use your actual account to state your beliefs. Your description of the protests as going downtown to riot is the type of misrepresentation we expect from children, not adults.
The account someone posts something from has nothing to do with the validity of their argument.
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I think that restaurants and so on could decide for themself if they want to open or not, and what to do, and then the people can decide to go or don't go. But the people ought to be warned, regardless.
I don't see restaurants and shops being forced to open if they don't want to.
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N95 is overkill. You likely bring down the R0 below one if everyone wears just cloth masks. Less covid droplets in shared air. I still don’t see how will public transport for example resume in the next year. My bus was always packed like sardines and couldn’t fit everyone in it at the stop
N95 protects you. Cheapo masks protect other people. That's only useful with a much higher percentage of mask usage than observed in the US. Think this through. 50% use masks, 5% are spreading the disease. Interact with 100 people over a period of time. - Masks which protect others: (0.95)^50 chance of non-exposure = 0.6%. 92% of population exposed. - Masks which protect you: 50% of population exposed. This is oversi…
I think your word “cheapo” is derogatory. Are people just being cheap when they don’t buy an N95 mask?
Saying “cheapo” masks only protect others is an incorrect conclusion: your language is also misleading.
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That's not a double standard. That's just a standard. When one group of people is holding signs that say "stop murdering people" and the other group is holding signs that say "I need a haircut," and you're mad that "the commenters" are not treating them the same, the problem is not with the commenters.
You're making my point. You politically support one side more than the other, right down to belittling the side you unsupport as "I need a haircut". Maybe I agree with you politically, but when arguments from principle pivot from one week to the next based on which way the politics point, it's not really about principle.
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Is that 300-1000 unjustified deaths, or does it also include situations where the use of deadly force may have been reasonable?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/investigations/polic... Filtering for "2019, black, unarmed" you get: 15 people shot and killed by police match your filters (less than 1%) Change that to "2015" and you get: 38 people shot and killed by police match your filters (1%)
People are also marching for deaths caused by other citizens that were first swept under the rug, like Ahmaud Arbery.
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You do understand that the poor are the one that suffer from the lockdown and its side effects? I'm making sweet sweet benjies while "working" from 3 bed home with garden and managed to gobble up stocks on the cheap when we were in sky is falling mode.
Sure, but that was a choice by our government to not bail out the people—again, the death cult.