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Chan Zuckerberg Initiative scientists: FB’s practices ‘antithetical’ to mission
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Re: Chan Zuckerberg Initiative scientists: FB’s practices ‘antithetical’ to mission
#12The Chan Zuckerberg Initiative's mission is to shelter most of Zuck's wealth from taxation while ensuring that he and his wife retain as much control over it as possible. Facebook's negative externalities are orthogonal to this mission.
If the money is going to actual scientists who cares that he controls it. Its his money!
It is no longer his money after donating to the foundation.
He ceded control of the money in order to get certain tax benefits.
Re: Chan Zuckerberg Initiative scientists: FB’s practices ‘antithetical’ to mission
#13I'm a scientist that benefits from this money. I'm not a Zuck fan, but I don't like strict policing of speech so I'm alright Zuck's move here. Moderate scientists keep quiet in academia for their own good.
The problem doesn't have anything to do with policing speech. The problem is the intentional propagation and promotion of inflammatory speech. It is one thing to allow hate speech, it is another to increase it's prominence because it is "more engaging." Facebook does just that.
The newspaper + money + printing costs system has done that for generations. If you want engaging information to stop being spread more than less-engaging information, then you're going to have to come up with a way to stop more engaging newspapers from printing more copies than less-engaging ones.
Re: Chan Zuckerberg Initiative scientists: FB’s practices ‘antithetical’ to mission
#14I'm a scientist that benefits from this money. I'm not a Zuck fan, but I don't like strict policing of speech so I'm alright Zuck's move here. Moderate scientists keep quiet in academia for their own good.
The problem doesn't have anything to do with policing speech. The problem is the intentional propagation and promotion of inflammatory speech. It is one thing to allow hate speech, it is another to increase it's prominence because it is "more engaging." Facebook does just that.
Couldn't that comment apply to all social media. What is popular is what is deemed quality and other things like it get promoted.
Re: Chan Zuckerberg Initiative scientists: FB’s practices ‘antithetical’ to mission
#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
If the money is going to actual scientists who cares that he controls it. Its his money!
It is no longer his money after donating to the foundation. He ceded control of the money in order to get certain tax benefits.
What are you talking about. He decides where the money goes even when it’s in the foundation. He gets tax benefits for giving it to things considered charitable by the government.
Re: Chan Zuckerberg Initiative scientists: FB’s practices ‘antithetical’ to mission
#16The Chan Zuckerberg Initiative's mission is to shelter most of Zuck's wealth from taxation while ensuring that he and his wife retain as much control over it as possible. Facebook's negative externalities are orthogonal to this mission.
Giving your wealth away may make it so you don’t have to pay taxes on it but it’s not really a “shelter”
Re: Chan Zuckerberg Initiative scientists: FB’s practices ‘antithetical’ to mission
#17I'm a scientist that benefits from this money. I'm not a Zuck fan, but I don't like strict policing of speech so I'm alright Zuck's move here. Moderate scientists keep quiet in academia for their own good.
I'm not affected by misinformation and incitement of violence so I'm ok with it. /s
Re: Chan Zuckerberg Initiative scientists: FB’s practices ‘antithetical’ to mission
#18The Chan Zuckerberg Initiative's mission is to shelter most of Zuck's wealth from taxation while ensuring that he and his wife retain as much control over it as possible. Facebook's negative externalities are orthogonal to this mission.
It’s a for-profit LLC[1], not sure how he would be sheltering wealth...
[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chan_Zuckerberg_Initiative
Re: Chan Zuckerberg Initiative scientists: FB’s practices ‘antithetical’ to mission
#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
The problem doesn't have anything to do with policing speech. The problem is the intentional propagation and promotion of inflammatory speech. It is one thing to allow hate speech, it is another to increase it's prominence because it is "more engaging." Facebook does just that.
The newspaper + money + printing costs system has done that for generations. If you want engaging information to stop being spread more than less-engaging information, then you're going to have to come up with a way to stop more engaging newspapers from printing more copies than less-engaging ones.
There is a big difference between a newspaper and Facebook (with over a billion users) spreading misinformation.
This is like comparing a match stick to jet fuel.
Re: Chan Zuckerberg Initiative scientists: FB’s practices ‘antithetical’ to mission
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is no longer his money after donating to the foundation. He ceded control of the money in order to get certain tax benefits.
What are you talking about. He decides where the money goes even when it’s in the foundation. He gets tax benefits for giving it to things considered charitable by the government.
Did they stop teaching civics in class?
https://chanzuckerberg.com/grants-ventures/grants/
"Grants are awarded via three funding entities: the Chan Zuckerberg Foundation, a 501(c)3 private foundation; the Chan Zuckerberg Initiative Donor-Advised Fund (DAF) at the Silicon Valley Community Foundation; and Chan Zuckerberg Advocacy, a 501(c)4 organization."
Now please do check how money needs to be spent by 501(c)3:
https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/charitable-organiz...
He still has significant control and influence that can be exerted by foundation. Yet, buying lambo or yacht with this money is harder.