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Re: Linux Mint Dumps Ubuntu Snap

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post #180

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There are definitely snaps that are useful on servers, like LXD and Nextcloud.

Having them auto update and restart daemon services are not good for servers though.

I disagree. I like having Nextcloud auto-update, even if it results in a service restart. I just schedule that for a time of day that isn't very disruptive. As for LXD, restarting the LXD daemon doesn't effect the containers (they continue running).

Re: Linux Mint Dumps Ubuntu Snap

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post #281

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Having them auto update and restart daemon services are not good for servers though.

I disagree. I like having Nextcloud auto-update, even if it results in a service restart. I just schedule that for a time of day that isn't very disruptive. As for LXD, restarting the LXD daemon doesn't effect the containers (they continue running).

It's about having a choice though.

Re: Linux Mint Dumps Ubuntu Snap

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post #281

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I disagree. I like having Nextcloud auto-update, even if it results in a service restart. I just schedule that for a time of day that isn't very disruptive. As for LXD, restarting the LXD daemon doesn't effect the containers (they continue running).

It's about having a choice though.

Oh hey, I get it. That wasn't the point of the parent to which I was responding, though. I was merely trying to share that snaps are just as useful for server as for desktop, that's all.

Re: Linux Mint Dumps Ubuntu Snap

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post #9

I can understand Canonical pushing for snaps. It's their product and they want it to succeed. That said I hate their dirty ways. I find it even morally wrong. How can "sudo apt install chromium-browser" not install the apt package but install instead a snap? How I, as a user and also as a professional, trust Ubuntu if when I use their package manager I'm being tricked? I don't use Windows for a reason, more than one…

What distro? I use Ubuntu because I just want an OS, not a hobby.

mint is a great option, or debian imo. I've switched between debian, mint, and slackware for years now and its been a lot less overhead recently.

Re: Linux Mint Dumps Ubuntu Snap

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Would Debian be your recommendation for servers as well?

In case you are unsure what the sibling means: Debian is primarily a server OS (one of the best). When people talk about Debian, they mostly think about server use. (That's why your question sounds like a joke :) Or maybe it was a joke?)

Thank you for clarifying! Not intended as a joke :) #noob

I’ve used Ubuntu since the 2000s and never really branched out to explore different distros. I’ve added LWN’s Distributions List [1] to my reading list to lessen my ignorance.

[1]: https://lwn.net/Distributions/

Re: Linux Mint Dumps Ubuntu Snap

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post #87
post #49

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Ugh, no. Manjaro is the no-nonsense "I really don't want to waste time troubleshooting my own shit" version of Arch Linux. I stopped using Arch when I found Manjaro and I'm so glad I did. Arch just requires way too much fiddling for it to ever feel "complete" and or finished.

The cost of Arch over anything else is 100% in the installation. After that, it IS Manjaro except you are using the real thing, not a derivative. I've had to trouble shoot Arch far less than any other distro I've ever used.

My experience with Arch a few years ago was if you miss a few updates things tend to get REALLY broken. More than once I would have to hard reset some things because pacman + aurget would break something. If you update every day it’s okay, but it wasn’t my daily driver and I ran into that problem a lot!

Re: Linux Mint Dumps Ubuntu Snap

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post #217

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See the link in the sibling comment. They don't copy.

No, they've got to meddle and mess with every damn thing to create unnecessary headaches for users.

FFS, they build newer packages than Debian.

If you don't like that, use Debian directly. It's a good distro that has stood the test of time.

Re: Linux Mint Dumps Ubuntu Snap

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post #9

I can understand Canonical pushing for snaps. It's their product and they want it to succeed. That said I hate their dirty ways. I find it even morally wrong. How can "sudo apt install chromium-browser" not install the apt package but install instead a snap? How I, as a user and also as a professional, trust Ubuntu if when I use their package manager I'm being tricked? I don't use Windows for a reason, more than one…

What distro? I use Ubuntu because I just want an OS, not a hobby.

Back in 2015 I had installed and used Elementary OS - supposed to be a functional Linux distro (inspired by OSX UI 'd say). It wasn't stable at that time. Maybe it's better now.

Re: Linux Mint Dumps Ubuntu Snap

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post #87
post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ugh, no. Manjaro is the no-nonsense "I really don't want to waste time troubleshooting my own shit" version of Arch Linux. I stopped using Arch when I found Manjaro and I'm so glad I did. Arch just requires way too much fiddling for it to ever feel "complete" and or finished.

The cost of Arch over anything else is 100% in the installation. After that, it IS Manjaro except you are using the real thing, not a derivative. I've had to trouble shoot Arch far less than any other distro I've ever used.

I'm inclined to think that complexity in the installation is to put away random impatient users to keep the community cleaner. Of course many cloud providers provide a pre installed OS image too though.
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