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V002 Camera Live – Zoom with Your DSLR as a Webcam via USB

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Re: V002 Camera Live – Zoom with Your DSLR as a Webcam via USB

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Post by franga2000 »

airstrike wrote: post #78
franga2000 wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is neither relevant or entirely true. I was not yelling "hey everyone, stop using this word!", I was asking whether anyone else sees the same problems in its use as I do. And even if I were, telling people why you object to something in hopes they agree and maybe do something about it is literally how discourse works.

If we couldn't stop people from literally using "literally" figuratively, what makes you so optimistic about stopping them from zooming? > telling people why you object to something in hopes they agree and maybe do something about it It's fine to object, but the "do something about it" part is not as simple – it's really hard to police discourse. Previous attempts for the most part have either completely failed or ca…

Yeah, I couldn't find a better way to say "do something about it". I meant in the sense of "don't use it themselves and maybe occasionally point out the problem". Kind of like Stallman's infamous GNU/Linux copypasta. I have no intention to police anyone, but I see no reason to not object. At least then people know that not literally everyone uses it - although they will point out that "literally" everyone does.

Re: V002 Camera Live – Zoom with Your DSLR as a Webcam via USB

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Post by ofrzeta »

reedlaw wrote: post #16

This is possible in Linux using v4l2loopback and gphoto2.

I just discovered this some days ago through a blog (https://www.crackedthecode.co/how-to-use-your-dslr-as-a-webc...) and it worked out quite well. However I did not yet find a way to control the depth of field through aperture in live view because it's always fully open.

Re: V002 Camera Live – Zoom with Your DSLR as a Webcam via USB

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Post by coldtea »

franga2000 wrote: post #31
coldtea wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Am I the only one with strong objections to using Zoom as a verb? People will use it or not use it regardless of objections...

That is neither relevant or entirely true. I was not yelling "hey everyone, stop using this word!", I was asking whether anyone else sees the same problems in its use as I do. And even if I were, telling people why you object to something in hopes they agree and maybe do something about it is literally how discourse works.

>And even if I were, telling people why you object to something in hopes they agree and maybe do something about it is literally how discourse works.

Yes, but not how language works (same way it's not how the laws of physics work).

Language doesn't develop through discourse, but through actual discussions people have (not meta discussions, about what words are right, just plain discussions about whatever).

Re: V002 Camera Live – Zoom with Your DSLR as a Webcam via USB

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Post by coldtea »

franga2000 wrote: post #91
airstrike wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If we couldn't stop people from literally using "literally" figuratively, what makes you so optimistic about stopping them from zooming? > telling people why you object to something in hopes they agree and maybe do something about it It's fine to object, but the "do something about it" part is not as simple – it's really hard to police discourse. Previous attempts for the most part have either completely failed or ca…

Yeah, I couldn't find a better way to say "do something about it". I meant in the sense of "don't use it themselves and maybe occasionally point out the problem". Kind of like Stallman's infamous GNU/Linux copypasta. I have no intention to police anyone, but I see no reason to not object. At least then people know that not literally everyone uses it - although they will point out that "literally" everyone does.

>I meant in the sense of "don't use it themselves and maybe occasionally point out the problem".

The "problem" of using Zoom as a verb for teleconference?

In 2020, you really want people to concern with not "using it themselves" and occasionally "pointing out" this "problem"?

Re: V002 Camera Live – Zoom with Your DSLR as a Webcam via USB

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Post by franga2000 »

coldtea wrote: post #94
franga2000 wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I couldn't find a better way to say "do something about it". I meant in the sense of "don't use it themselves and maybe occasionally point out the problem". Kind of like Stallman's infamous GNU/Linux copypasta. I have no intention to police anyone, but I see no reason to not object. At least then people know that not literally everyone uses it - although they will point out that "literally" everyone does.

> I meant in the sense of "don't use it themselves and maybe occasionally point out the problem". The "problem" of using Zoom as a verb for teleconference? In 2020, you really want people to concern with not "using it themselves" and occasionally "pointing out" this "problem"?

I was just waiting for someone to go for the "there's more important things going on" bullshit.

Did I ever say this was the most important thing in the world? Did I even say it's important? Even slightly? You're acting like I'm asking healthcare workers to drop what they're doing and become the language police.

I shared an opinion. How dare I?!? Give me a break...

Re: V002 Camera Live – Zoom with Your DSLR as a Webcam via USB

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Post by franga2000 »

coldtea wrote: post #93
franga2000 wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is neither relevant or entirely true. I was not yelling "hey everyone, stop using this word!", I was asking whether anyone else sees the same problems in its use as I do. And even if I were, telling people why you object to something in hopes they agree and maybe do something about it is literally how discourse works.

> And even if I were, telling people why you object to something in hopes they agree and maybe do something about it is literally how discourse works. Yes, but not how language works (same way it's not how the laws of physics work). Language doesn't develop through discourse, but through actual discussions people have (not meta discussions, about what words are right, just plain discussions about whatever).

> Language doesn't develop through discourse, but through actual discussions people have

True, language is mostly shaped by people speaking it, but the way those people speak is also influenced by their opinions and the way people around them speak. The fewer people use the term, the fewer new people will start. It also provides some pressure to not use it because someone they know doesn't.

For an example of the latter: If a term is offensive to a certain group, they will tell people about it. Some of those people might stop using it as a result. The people around them might never even be exposed to the original term, and if they are, would be told that some consider it offensive and they might stop using it too. (for practical examples, see racial slurs, curse words, etc.)

I'm genuinely surprised how many people had a problem with my comment, as I've seen plenty of similar discussions around "GNU/Linux", "Googling", "Windows key", "sending a Gmail"...

Re: V002 Camera Live – Zoom with Your DSLR as a Webcam via USB

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Post by coldtea »

franga2000 wrote: post #95
coldtea wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I meant in the sense of "don't use it themselves and maybe occasionally point out the problem". The "problem" of using Zoom as a verb for teleconference? In 2020, you really want people to concern with not "using it themselves" and occasionally "pointing out" this "problem"?

I was just waiting for someone to go for the "there's more important things going on" bullshit. Did I ever say this was the most important thing in the world? Did I even say it's important? Even slightly? You're acting like I'm asking healthcare workers to drop what they're doing and become the language police. I shared an opinion. How dare I?!? Give me a break...

>Did I ever say this was the most important thing in the world? Did I even say it's important? Even slightly?

You don't have to say it explicitly, there's this thing called context. If you ask people to worry about it and maybe "do something", then you give it importance.

I'm not saying something has to be the most important thing in the world to care about it. Plenty of things that are not "the most important things in the world" are still worthy caring about. Heck, most things we have to care about (like our rent), are not "the most important things in the world" either.

What I'm saying is that this particular thing is so unimportant that we shouldn't care about it.

>I shared an opinion. How dare I?!? Give me a break...

And I shared mine on that first opinion.

Re: V002 Camera Live – Zoom with Your DSLR as a Webcam via USB

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Post by kbouck »

lurquer wrote: post #44
stragies wrote: post #39

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If you use the usb gadget mode of the raspberry pi to present the PI as a USB WebCam, you can forego the HDMI-connection, and thus the need for the HDMI capture card.

I've been trying to get a FPV drone camera feed into my Windows 10 computer so OpenCV can muck around with it. OpenCV easily recognizes Webcams, but sucks at picking up 'video adapter' kinda stuff. (That is, I'm going to be using an RCA to USB dongle, such as EasyCap.) If you can 'trick' OpenCV into thinking a webcam is attached at the USB, everything is golden. Can you describe this raspberry pi method of 'presentin…

here's a couple of links discussing how to set up and working through the issues.

http://www.davidhunt.ie/raspberry-pi-zero-with-pi-camera-as-...

https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=148361

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