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Re: Changes to our content policy, our board, and where we’re going from here

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It’s all about doing what you can when you can. Please take this acerbic, hyperbolic attitude somewhere else.

I hope the irony is not lost on you when you ask me to leave this platform for disagreeing with you.

I hope you realize the irony of the fact that you're posting on a forum much more heavily moderated than Reddit.

Re: Changes to our content policy, our board, and where we’re going from here

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Ellen K. Pao was right all along. Also if the replies in here are representative of Silicon Valley as a whole, damn. It just reminds me of the stereotypical too-smart-for-their-own-good hacker who is prone to making sweeping generalisations and extrapolations in domains that lie outside of their own experience or expertise. I know I'm prone to this and I've met a lot of arrogant smart people who fall into this catego…

> Also if the replies in here are representative of Silicon Valley as a whole, damn.

Unbelievable indeed. When is HN going to come out with their anti hate policy?

Re: Changes to our content policy, our board, and where we’re going from here

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And what defines "hate"? Are they going be as consistent with the content of gangsta rappers? I'd wager no. It really is sad to see how hiveminded reddit has become, particularly with the city subreddits. Any person with a dissenting viewpoint either gets banned or gets downvoted to oblivion. And not everyone shares the same viewpoint on who the "bad people" are out there. I, for one, feel that thug brutality is a bi…

> And what defines "hate"? Are they going be as consistent with the content of gangsta rappers? I'd wager no. Probably because the content from "gangsta rappers" doesn't instigate brutality that leverages a power imbalance the way cultural and systemic hatred drive police brutality. > thug brutality is a bigger problem than police brutality It's objectively not, and I won't hide the reasoning either: police brutality…

You're missing his point; what defines "hateful" is mostly subjective and is always influenced by the watchmen interests. And what is acceptable today may be considered hateful tomorrow, in fact back in the 1990s "gangsta rap" was considered hateful.

Re: Changes to our content policy, our board, and where we’re going from here

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To me, it seems like a combination of childish-authoritarian beliefs that the world will change for the better once, and only once, you stop anyone from saying anything controversial at all. Once nobody is able to disagree, bad things won't exist any more.

It’s all about doing what you can when you can. Please take this acerbic, hyperbolic attitude somewhere else.

Isn't your own reply but a hyperbole? Reddit can do much better than this. The person suggested it should be a platform for open discussion, including controversial topics, rather than becoming yet another China. The person was saying you cannot stop violence by shutting up people.

Re: Changes to our content policy, our board, and where we’re going from here

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Your implied reverse-racism argument just doesn't hold. Are you telling me that there are no capable African-Americans who could fill that board position? If not, the what are you arguing? That increasing the representation of historically oppressed minority groups is bad?

It seems a bit silly to say "reverse racism" doesn't hold when race is an explicit criteria for the job. Maybe this is still net positive for all the good that could come out of it, but clearly racist to say certain races need not apply. Imagine I'm selling clothes to upper middle class people in Iowa and someone applies to be a salesman or a general manager. "Oh sorry, I'm really looking for a white person here beca…

But people of all races are required to know white people culture to attend to our needs.

In the situation you give, being white offers no special qualifications.

Re: Changes to our content policy, our board, and where we’re going from here

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Just seen my other comment was downvoted to hell. Just shows the position of many users of this forum. Why can we not have an area where more people are represented and know fine well they wont be targetted with abuse? If this means banning racist or fascist outlets / users then so be it.

Re: Changes to our content policy, our board, and where we’re going from here

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> Are you telling me that there are no capable African-Americans who could fill that board position? Of fucking course not. > If not, the what are you arguing? That increasing the representation of historically oppressed minority groups is bad? This might be difficult for you to understand but explicitly hiring someone with a particular skin colour is the fucking definition of racism.

>This might be difficult for you to understand but explicitly hiring someone with a particular skin colour is the fucking definition of racism. The only difference between what they're doing now and what they did before is the skin color requirement is explicit instead of implicit. Only hire white guys? Meritocracy! Decide you want to hire 1 black guy? Racist!

This is a bit odd to me. I have have siblings who are married to high achieving blacks and having talked to them the issue is more complex than "white people are all inherently racist and don't want to hire minorities". There are cultural problems in the black community in terms of how educating oneself is viewed. To be clear: if you strive academically you are "acting like a white man". Not only do I applaud and know individuals who are able to shut out that garbage mentality but it is awesome to see them get into high paying engineering roles. They deserve it.
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