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Re: Editors (Vim)

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Post by michaericalribo »

Vim is a well-sharpened pocket knife, a precision tool that excels at editing text interactively.

It’s interesting to me the different models for tools that address similar problems. I used to use vim, and the chords of keystrokes are still fresh in my mind, even though I switched to emacs years ago.

And now I use vanilla emacs —but that model is totally different, it’s an okay text editor but an excellent customizable user shell. It’s not a matter of better//worse, but of different philosophical approaches

Re: Editors (Vim)

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Post by oehtXRwMkIs »

chongli wrote: post #7
jedwards1211 wrote: post #2

Vim emulation in VSCode worse than any other IDE I've used. All extensions have to run on the same thread in a background process and intercepted keystrokes are passed to that process over IPC. So if other extensions (like the TS language tools) are tying up the extension host process, the Vim extension can't respond to your keyboard input until other extensions yield. Performance issues come and go but for awhile I…

As a long time vim user, I’ve tried VSCode a few times and I cannot for the life of me figure out what all the hype is about. Can anyone who is proficient with it explain the philosophy behind it and what makes it so great? This is a sincere question, not a rhetorical one.

It's very featureful and very easy to pick up. So I speculate that most of its popularity is with people that unfortunately have not yet been enlightened by vim/emacs.

Re: Editors (Vim)

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Post by adamredwoods »

I respect Vim, I've seen it used with impressive speed, BUT I am so used to command-s to save, that I don't feel ready to :w enter all the time. VS Code is powerful, and learning the keyboard shortcuts for that are getting better every day (command-shift-p format-selection enter).

Re: Editors (Vim)

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Post by gorgoiler »

I’m so used to vim as a code editor that I assumed, after the introduction, this article was going to be castigating me for trying to write prose in vim (which I indeed try to do on a regular basis, with what feels like a lot of friction.)

Perhaps, as they imply, I should dust off a copy of Microsoft Word and switch back to that!

Re: Editors (Vim)

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Post by hwestiii »

I feel about Vim the way RMS seems to feel about Linux. Even though, (presumably) everyone knows the relationship of vim to vi, I don’t feel there is enough explicit acknowledgement of that fact. Vim is evidently a wonderful tool, (I say this as a confirmed 20 year emacs user for whom emacs is only usable due to excellent vi emulation possibilities) but it clearly wouldn’t exist without the basic foundation provided by canonical vi which is in my estimation a work of genius.

Re: Editors (Vim)

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Post by chongli »

oehtXRwMkIs wrote: post #12
chongli wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a long time vim user, I’ve tried VSCode a few times and I cannot for the life of me figure out what all the hype is about. Can anyone who is proficient with it explain the philosophy behind it and what makes it so great? This is a sincere question, not a rhetorical one.

It's very featureful and very easy to pick up. So I speculate that most of its popularity is with people that unfortunately have not yet been enlightened by vim/emacs.

The article said 1.4 million people have installed the Vim plugin for VSCode. That's a sizeable chunk. Presumably a bunch of those people really like the editor.

Re: Editors (Vim)

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Post by Exuma »

adamredwoods wrote: post #13

I respect Vim, I've seen it used with impressive speed, BUT I am so used to command-s to save, that I don't feel ready to :w enter all the time. VS Code is powerful, and learning the keyboard shortcuts for that are getting better every day (command-shift-p format-selection enter).

macvim still supports command+S

Re: Editors (Vim)

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Post by satvikpendem »

jedwards1211 wrote: post #2

Vim emulation in VSCode worse than any other IDE I've used. All extensions have to run on the same thread in a background process and intercepted keystrokes are passed to that process over IPC. So if other extensions (like the TS language tools) are tying up the extension host process, the Vim extension can't respond to your keyboard input until other extensions yield. Performance issues come and go but for awhile I…

https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=asvetlia...

This is using a real neovim instance rather than emulation, and performance is excellent for me.

Re: Editors (Vim)

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Post by Ingon »

adamredwoods wrote: post #13

I respect Vim, I've seen it used with impressive speed, BUT I am so used to command-s to save, that I don't feel ready to :w enter all the time. VS Code is powerful, and learning the keyboard shortcuts for that are getting better every day (command-shift-p format-selection enter).

You can put something like this in your .vimrc:

  " save with ctrl+s
  nmap  :w
  imap  :wa
Edit: I guess it should be:

  nmap  :w
  imap  :wa
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