The only reason I don't use Signal is because it still uses your phone number for ID. What is even the point of verifying by number?
Looking back at how Signal works
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Re: Looking back at how Signal works
#12The only reason I don't use Signal is because it still uses your phone number for ID. What is even the point of verifying by number?
"PINs will also help facilitate new features like addressing that isn’t based exclusively on phone numbers, since the system address book will no longer be a viable way to maintain your network of contacts."
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#13> how we think about concepts like privacy, security, and trust I was disappointed to see that a mobile number is needed and that this number is shown by default in groups. Mobile numbers are much more trackable then email addresses in my opinion. And I do not understand at all why others should be able to see them so easily. So I now prefer Telegram because at least it hides numbers in groups by default.
Re: Looking back at how Signal works
#14> how we think about concepts like privacy, security, and trust I was disappointed to see that a mobile number is needed and that this number is shown by default in groups. Mobile numbers are much more trackable then email addresses in my opinion. And I do not understand at all why others should be able to see them so easily. So I now prefer Telegram because at least it hides numbers in groups by default.
Burner sim to setup and throw away addresses this concern. Telegram, messages in plaintext on the server? Encryption that isn't open? Yeah telegram is a bit of a non-starter if you have these kinds of concerns as far as I'm aware.
Re: Looking back at how Signal works
#15The only reason I don't use Signal is because it still uses your phone number for ID. What is even the point of verifying by number?
Thankfully they are moving away from this with the option to use a PIN instead pf phone #. Not sure when that rolls out, but I'm v. excited for it
Re: Looking back at how Signal works
#16> how we think about concepts like privacy, security, and trust I was disappointed to see that a mobile number is needed and that this number is shown by default in groups. Mobile numbers are much more trackable then email addresses in my opinion. And I do not understand at all why others should be able to see them so easily. So I now prefer Telegram because at least it hides numbers in groups by default.
Burner sim to setup and throw away addresses this concern. Telegram, messages in plaintext on the server? Encryption that isn't open? Yeah telegram is a bit of a non-starter if you have these kinds of concerns as far as I'm aware.
Re: Looking back at how Signal works
#17Re: Looking back at how Signal works
#18Most recent I was able to find was this 2018 version: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23431076
Re: Looking back at how Signal works
#19What happens to Signal when the EARN It Act passes? I assume that eventually the Apple App Store and Google Play Store will just stop allowing it to be downloaded if they do not add the backdoor in? Is there a workaround that will allow people to use it still? I've heard people mention locating the servers in other countries, but wouldn't the various App stores be bound by US law and still not allow them?
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#20However, given the topic title it would have been nice to see some actual documentation on how signal actually works rather than just claims that it doesnt work like the others.