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Re: Linux Mint Dumps Ubuntu Snap

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I dumped Ubuntu over Snap. Maybe I’m just ignorant but it seems like allowing developers to push software updates without any review invites the same sorts of issues we’ve seen on npm, with very high risks for certain use cases. I don’t want that kind of relationship with my OS, forced updates are why I ditched Windows in the first place.

Aside from the philosophical concerns I ran into a lot of glitches with various snap packages, frequently resulting in lost or corrupted data. And the sandbox approach prevented certain filesystem tweaking I previously took for granted. Overall I didn’t see the benefit and didn’t have time to futz with it.

I’m curious if there are any distros with a recent version of Gnome and also a sane package manager.

Re: Linux Mint Dumps Ubuntu Snap

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We've only had problems with snap so far, constantly. Kudos to Mint for doing the right thing for their users.

It's actually worked well for me. But, I never want to see a program on my Linux boxes automatically running root over a network connection for any reason without my specific say so, never mind just to install Chromium.

Re: Linux Mint Dumps Ubuntu Snap

#5

I dumped Ubuntu over Snap. Maybe I’m just ignorant but it seems like allowing developers to push software updates without any review invites the same sorts of issues we’ve seen on npm, with very high risks for certain use cases. I don’t want that kind of relationship with my OS, forced updates are why I ditched Windows in the first place. Aside from the philosophical concerns I ran into a lot of glitches with various…

> forced updates are why I ditched Windows in the first place

Samsung has followed suit w/ Android. Once an update is available, the user can defer it three times before the phone is rebooted. Not even Apple pulls this crap.

Re: Linux Mint Dumps Ubuntu Snap

#6

I dumped Ubuntu over Snap. Maybe I’m just ignorant but it seems like allowing developers to push software updates without any review invites the same sorts of issues we’ve seen on npm, with very high risks for certain use cases. I don’t want that kind of relationship with my OS, forced updates are why I ditched Windows in the first place. Aside from the philosophical concerns I ran into a lot of glitches with various…

Definitely try an Arch-based distro. I run Arch myself, but I've heard good things about Manjaro.

Re: Linux Mint Dumps Ubuntu Snap

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I personally don't packaging apps in a sandbox, its a violation of the basic idea of writing tools that do one thing well. Still, snap gets lots of flack, but I don't see the same for flatpak. Is there some advantage to flatpak that I am missing, or is it just than Ubuntu has pushed snaps too hard?

Re: Linux Mint Dumps Ubuntu Snap

#8

I dumped Ubuntu over Snap. Maybe I’m just ignorant but it seems like allowing developers to push software updates without any review invites the same sorts of issues we’ve seen on npm, with very high risks for certain use cases. I don’t want that kind of relationship with my OS, forced updates are why I ditched Windows in the first place. Aside from the philosophical concerns I ran into a lot of glitches with various…

Launch times and (silly, but it really bugged me) pollution of my `df` output drove me away.

Re: Linux Mint Dumps Ubuntu Snap

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I can understand Canonical pushing for snaps. It's their product and they want it to succeed.

That said I hate their dirty ways. I find it even morally wrong. How can "sudo apt install chromium-browser" not install the apt package but install instead a snap? How I, as a user and also as a professional, trust Ubuntu if when I use their package manager I'm being tricked?

I don't use Windows for a reason, more than one actually. I've been using Ubuntu even with all the "weird" stuff Canonical has been doing over the years but I think this is the nail in the coffin.

Right now I'm using 20.04 but as soon as I finish some work I have left I'll install a fresh new distro.

Re: Linux Mint Dumps Ubuntu Snap

#10
I've been using Mint now for several years and been satisfied with it. I was afraid that the Ubuntu's snap mishegas would force me to move elsewhere, but this is the message I was hoping to hear from the Mint team.
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