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Re: Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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Post by dang »

s9w wrote: post #4

I really don't know what they want anymore. How much cleaner than Reddit does it get? There is nothing left that is even remotely controversial. I'm so confused. The way he said BLACK candidate also feels really weird. We get it - you want to virtue signal. Make it a little less obvious.

Would you please stop using HN for ideological battle? It's against the site guidelines for good reason—it destroys curious conversation in two ways: first by being predictable (so the signal/noise ratio goes down) and second by being inflammatory (so it evokes worse from other people, leading to a downward spiral).

Also, please don't post flamebait and/or unsubstantive comments generally. You've been doing that a lot lately, and we eventually penalize or ban such accounts.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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Post by ohgodplsno »

throwmehaweh wrote: post #306
jacobolus wrote: post #170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The “only difference” between a group of fascist white supremacists who fantasize about violently exterminating their perceived enemies and a bunch of ordinary people in a community organized around discussing newspaper/news magazine articles who are scared about the growing threat of fascist white supremacists and want them voted out of office and removed from positions of power is that the former have “dropped the…

> group of fascist white supremacists who fantasize about violently exterminating their perceived enemies Ummm, what? so people that support the President are all fascist white supremacists? Is that really where we're at in this country? What about the sizable number of blacks/latinos/and asians that support him, are they white supremacists too? "white supremacist" and "racist", two terms that have been watered down…

green user, only posts are in support of T_D, pretends it wasn't a hate filled shithole... Alright, I'll bite.

t_d was a vile, hatred spewing, white nationalist, violence prone subreddit and its death made the world better. Let's link a few examples, not for you, but for the few people that might still doubt it.

(NSFW links coming up, by the way.)

Their mods regularly left up posts that advocated for violence against leftists [1], calling for civil war in response to impeachement [2], calling for the murder of those who disagree with them [3], general gay and islamic hatred [4], kept a discord with doxxes of leftist in their sidebar [5], calling for political opponent's murder [6], rounding up muslims into concentration camps [7], extermination of migrants [8], and many, many, many others [9][10][11]

[1] http://archive.today/slkGP

[2] http://archive.today/DrQTU

[3] http://archive.today/TbEpC

[4] https://ld.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/f9owok/i_present...

[5] https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanhatesthis/trump-sup...

[6] http://archive.today/0uCjr

[7] http://archive.today/DwlAc

[8] http://archive.today/oOqOR

[9] https://archive.today/c76rt

[10] http://archive.fo/lGoMJ

[11] http://archive.is/WEwv5

Re: Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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Post by disposekinetics »

cmdshiftf4 wrote: post #328
disposekinetics wrote: post #125

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That's the problem I run into too.

Wait, you're looking for a federated alternative to Reddit, but people exercising free speech on other platforms is a problem for you? Why not just stay with Reddit?

A federated service would be harder to monetize. Which makes me think it would stay usable longer.

Re: Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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Post by kyleblarson »

z9e wrote: post #217
fernandotakai wrote: post #200

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right? i never ever see right wing content on reddit's /r/all frontpage, but i ALWAYS see left-wing content (including there small subreddits with 10k+ upvotes). see, i'm not conservative (i'm absurdly socially liberal and a bit fiscally conservative -- i prefer less taxes and less government spending in general) but it's baffling that people call reddit a "right-wing-cesspool". if you look at unfiltered /r/all right…

I'm fiscally conservative, and even trying to discuss those ideas on Reddit has met me with downvotes galore without being discussed. Even while trying to be respectful and open-minded. I gave up after a while. A lot of people can't fathom how conservative ideas would be shunned on there until they actually try to discuss them. Reddit is comprised of a lot of younger people who are indoctrinated to think in certain w…

"Reddit is comprised of a lot of younger people who are indoctrinated to think in certain ways and haven't ventured far outside of their ideological bubble." This is correct. They have been indoctrinated to respond to any dissenting discourse with cries of 'nazi', 'racist', etc. rather than actual arguments.

Re: Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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Post by dionidium »

haunter wrote: post #299

>I have urged them to fill my seat with a black candidate I'm not american but does racial quotas have any support? Say every company should have X% of N races on the board? South Africa for example have something like this in their (still majority white) sports teams.

Americans do more or less support affirmative action programs, but the details matter:

> "Poll results vary widely, for example, according to specific question wordings. In general, historical polling data show that Americans have an overall positive view toward "affirmative action" and programs that increase opportunities for minorities, so long as these do not confer an unfair advantage for minorities in the form of "preferential treatment" or "lower standards."

More concretely, compare the following proposition:

> "Setting quotas for the number of racial minorities hired or accepted, but requiring them to meet the same standards as others (66% favor, 32% oppose)"

To this one:

> "Setting quotas for the number of racial minorities hired or accepted even if it means lowering the standards in order to make up for past discrimination (18% favor, 79% oppose)"

Source: https://news.gallup.com/poll/7660/gallup-brain-bakke-affirma...

Re: Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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Post by mcintyre1994 »

javagram wrote: post #341
GaryNumanVevo wrote: post #285

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And? De-platforming works very effectively. Look at 8chan, Gab and Voat. All drowning in server costs trying to host "safe spaces" for certain opinions.

8chan, Gab, and goat are all for very out of the mainstream opinions. The POTUS has a strong support base, including multiple major media outlets that share information about him. It’s a totally different story. I think he could easily stand up a huge social media network if he needed to, perhaps in collaboration with Fox News.

I'm not so sure that he could to be honest. From an advertising PoV I don't think they'd have much luck - I listened to Ben Shapiro's podcast for a few weeks out of curiosity a while back and his advertisers are really bottom of the barrel stuff. If you've ever checked out Breitbart then.. yea. I doubt you could sustain the server costs. TBH I doubt the Daily Wire would be profitable from its advertising alone, and they don't have nearly the server or personnel costs a huge social media network would. I don't think a Trump affiliated social network would do any better with advertisers.

Re: Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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Post by lxeiqr »

tw000001 wrote: post #272
vegannet wrote: post #208

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I don’t think this alarmist view makes much sense because all of that has happened, and more. The Right (the group of angry young white men inhabiting r/the_donald not conservative voters) spend every moment outraged about censorship and supposed sleights against them — real or not. Everything you describe is happening every single day and has been since before Donald Trump and will continue after him. If the_donald…

>the group of angry young white men inhabiting r/the_donald not conservative voter The degree to which casual anti-white racism has been normalized on reddit is abhorrent. Even moreso when these people claim to champion anti-racism. Reddit can't die soon enough. It is a dangerous bastion of propaganda - the comments are designed to look authentic but none of the discourse is truly organic because of a combination of…

It's a bit sad how there aren't many places on the internet left that strive for the balance between no moderation (for example - various anonymous imageboards) and an extremely biased one (especially towards political opinions, eg. on Reddit and Twitter). In addition to that there are problems with bots made to influence public discussion. In my opinion, that's the main reason why you shouldn't base your opinions on the general public on content you see on the internet - it's relatively easy to manipulate any opinion in a way that it seems supported by a large (and loud) majority.

Re: Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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Post by javagram »

mcintyre1994 wrote: post #377
javagram wrote: post #341

Earlier quoted context omitted.

8chan, Gab, and goat are all for very out of the mainstream opinions. The POTUS has a strong support base, including multiple major media outlets that share information about him. It’s a totally different story. I think he could easily stand up a huge social media network if he needed to, perhaps in collaboration with Fox News.

I'm not so sure that he could to be honest. From an advertising PoV I don't think they'd have much luck - I listened to Ben Shapiro's podcast for a few weeks out of curiosity a while back and his advertisers are really bottom of the barrel stuff. If you've ever checked out Breitbart then.. yea. I doubt you could sustain the server costs. TBH I doubt the Daily Wire would be profitable from its advertising alone, and t…

My thought would be that it might be funded by his campaign, similar to his other campaign apps and website. Completely hypothetical of course but they could either just make it owned by the campaign, or stand it up at arms-length and have it funded by dark money donations from trump supporting billionaires, kind of like a super PAC? Or just have the campaign buy millions of ads itself on the site to fund server costs.

Re: Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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Post by mifeng »

redditadmin1499 wrote: post #364
bananabreakfast wrote: post #288

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Keep in mind that it was found that all of her allegations of sexual harassment were completely unfounded and she was likely just trying to get a settlement to help her dire financial situation

The Vanity Fair piece on her and her husband is a good read. It was written before she became CEO, or really got that much attention. I have no idea how true her allegations were, but she's the sort of person who would take advantage of situations. https://www.vanityfair.com/style/scandal/2013/03/buddy-fletc... The best commentary I read on her case with Kleiner Perkins was it was an imperfect case with imperfect par…

I remember reading this article when it came out in 2013.

When I re-read it today, I finally saw all the obstacles and discrimination that Ellen Pao and Buddy Fletcher had to overcome just to be in a position to be embroiled in scandals like this.

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