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Re: If you see the cops, start recording

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Post by oaue0823 »

ssklash wrote: post #53
footnipple wrote: post #5

First of all. Thank God for the police. Thankfully there are men and women that are willing to serve in this role because the Thin Blue Line is a very real thing. There is not very much standing between order and chaos, and after seeing much chaos, I choose order. Having said that, absolutely have a dashcam/recording device in your car. I do and it has saved me from getting a very big fine in addition to providing ho…

Or you could, you know, protest police brutality and misconduct and support police reform. Respect the reality that police are public servants, accountable to us, whose job is to keep us safe, and who have been endowed with great powers to do that job. The second they stop doing that job, they become incredibly dangerous because of those powers. I've always been amazed at the law and order, respect my rights, follow…

Ok but it's a pretty hard job and mistakes are unavoidable just like with any job.

I'm pretty fine here, when I make a code mistake I can fix it, and I'm paid so much more than a cop.

I suppose that would be a good reason for me to bitch about cops in general right ?

At least, that's what it seems when I read comments on hn the last days.

Re: If you see the cops, start recording

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Post by xtracto »

stevula wrote: post #8
travjones wrote: post #4

Cops may ask you not to record and even threaten you with arrest for recording. Do not be intimidated; it is your right to record without obstructing. If you find yourself in a situation where you might be detained and thereby unable to control interactions with your device, on iPhone you can disable TouchID and FaceID by holding one of the volume buttons and the sleep/wake button simultaneously for a few seconds. Th…

Also make sure you have iCloud enabled so you can access the video later if your device is damaged or lost.

I think for non-Apple users Periscope allows to automatically stream and record an event right? No need to "finish" recording as it directly streams and saves it to their servers. Is that correct?

Re: If you see the cops, start recording

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Post by adventured »

tbabb wrote: post #32
chrisco255 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cops carry guns because the situation can always get out of hand. Violent criminals still exist in society. EDIT: the ignorant people claiming average police officer does not deal with violent criminals have obviously never worked as a first responder. They deal with rape, suicide, murder, assault, domestic abuse, robbery, every week unless they're some small town cop in a gilded neighborhood. The cops in St. Louis,…

Plenty of departments in other countries do not carry guns and do their jobs just fine.

Plenty of departments in other countries do routinely carry guns, including in Italy, Spain, France and Germany. The first time I ever saw a submachine gun was at a train station in Germany, it was shocking to see cops walking around as routine so heavily armed like it was no big deal, despite an obvious lack of threat anywhere.

You have to solve both sides of the gun equation for a disarm to work in the US, because violent criminals have very easy access to guns here. If you remove guns from the cops without doing so on the otherside, you're going to unleash hell.

Re: If you see the cops, start recording

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Post by [deleted] »

footnipple wrote: post #5

First of all. Thank God for the police. Thankfully there are men and women that are willing to serve in this role because the Thin Blue Line is a very real thing. There is not very much standing between order and chaos, and after seeing much chaos, I choose order. Having said that, absolutely have a dashcam/recording device in your car. I do and it has saved me from getting a very big fine in addition to providing ho…

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Re: If you see the cops, start recording

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Post by mountainboot »

footnipple wrote: post #37
jakelazaroff wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There is not very much standing between order and chaos, and after seeing much chaos, I choose order. The problem is that the police are causing most of the chaos. Looting has largely stopped in NYC, and all of the protests to which I've been have been entirely peaceful. But police still start beating and arresting people indiscriminately as soon as curfew starts — in some cases, even boxing protestors in so they c…

I respectfully disagree. I think the looters/insurgents are causing the chaos.

Insurgents? Really? I think bigfoot is causing the chaos.

Re: If you see the cops, start recording

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Post by heavyset_go »

travjones wrote: post #4

Cops may ask you not to record and even threaten you with arrest for recording. Do not be intimidated; it is your right to record without obstructing. If you find yourself in a situation where you might be detained and thereby unable to control interactions with your device, on iPhone you can disable TouchID and FaceID by holding one of the volume buttons and the sleep/wake button simultaneously for a few seconds. Th…

> Cops may ask you not to record and even threaten you with arrest for recording. Do not be intimidated; it is your right to record without obstructing.

Better advice is to read the situation. Cops can make, and have made, people's lives very difficult, whether through legal harassment, false charges or bodily harm, and it is your word against a cop's when you go before a judge.

Re: If you see the cops, start recording

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Post by dominotw »

ryanwaggoner wrote: post #47
dominotw wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is parallel with pilots and airplane crashes. There is a tendency for airlines to put the blame on a pilot in case of a crash, this disincentives pilots from speaking the truth. Unfortunately the 'anti cop' sentiment would have the same effect. Imgaine how hard it is for us to admit a mistake at work which brings the website down but here someone's life is at stake. What happens if a cop makes a mistake and cau…

I'm a pilot. This isn't remotely a fair comparison. There are lots of very complex and nuanced situations in aviation that require judgment calls. People are going to get it wrong sometimes. We're human. That's a far cry from this situation. There is no "judgment call" here: don't violently shove elderly people to the ground for no reason. If you accidentally do, help them up. If you pass by an elderly person lying o…

> There's no "mistake" here.

I wasn't talking about this specific case though, not sure how you inferred that from my comment that shoving old man was a mistake .

I was talking about a hypothetical case where it was indeed a mistake.

Re: If you see the cops, start recording

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Post by athenot »

api wrote: post #23

"Why are you worried about surveillance if you have nothing to hide?"

You are probably being downvoted because of the oft-repeated argument in favor of surveillance of citizens by some form of authority.

However it's interesting how flipping that argument around would cause all sorts of discomfort by the very people who advocated it in the other direction. (Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe that was in fact the point you were making.)

Re: If you see the cops, start recording

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Post by camgunz »

pjc50 wrote: post #35
rectang wrote: post #9

> But before action was taken by city leaders, Buffalo police lied about the incident. In an initial statement, the department said that a person was arrested "during a skirmish with other protesters," and that "during that skirmish involving protesters, one person was injured when he tripped and fell." The video clearly refutes the statement, showing that there was no skirmish around the elderly man, and that the of…

They resigned in protest at being held accountable: https://twitter.com/DaveGreber4/status/1268977512320819203?s...

Rarely does a problem solve itself so quickly and effectively.
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