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Re: If you see the cops, start recording

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Post by chrisco255 »

cwkoss wrote: post #6

I think half of the police force should be 'armed' with nothing more than cameras. Arrests are not necessary in the vast majority of situations police are called for, and recording technology is far superior to verbal testimony for serving our courts

Cops carry guns because the situation can always get out of hand. Violent criminals still exist in society.

EDIT: the ignorant people claiming average police officer does not deal with violent criminals have obviously never worked as a first responder. They deal with rape, suicide, murder, assault, domestic abuse, robbery, every week unless they're some small town cop in a gilded neighborhood.

The cops in St. Louis, Chicago, Baltimore, NYC, etc, see it every single day.

I hear a lot of suggestions by people have have never done the job. People making spurious claims about what police do and don't deal with on a daily basis.

I would never support female cops without firearms, for example. A grown man can easily overpower any woman, period. Especially when they are tweaked out on drugs.

Cops carry a gun because they have less than 6 seconds to respond to deadly situations that can save lives.

Re: If you see the cops, start recording

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Post by battery_cowboy »

travjones wrote: post #4

Cops may ask you not to record and even threaten you with arrest for recording. Do not be intimidated; it is your right to record without obstructing. If you find yourself in a situation where you might be detained and thereby unable to control interactions with your device, on iPhone you can disable TouchID and FaceID by holding one of the volume buttons and the sleep/wake button simultaneously for a few seconds. Th…

Hold down the power button for newer Android builds and press "Lockdown".

Re: If you see the cops, start recording

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Post by sneak »

rectang wrote: post #9

> But before action was taken by city leaders, Buffalo police lied about the incident. In an initial statement, the department said that a person was arrested "during a skirmish with other protesters," and that "during that skirmish involving protesters, one person was injured when he tripped and fell." The video clearly refutes the statement, showing that there was no skirmish around the elderly man, and that the of…

One issue I have found is that people, even educated people who are otherwise paying attention (including the news media and such) seem to drop this skepticism entirely when it comes to statements made by feds.

It’s as if they believe that local PD is some unprofessional good old boys or something, but the FBI, those are the professional ones.

Nothing could be further from the truth. Make sure your skepticism of police statements (including those regurgitated verbatim on the news) extends to feds as well. They have a decades-long history of the exact same damage.

Beware anything put in a sworn statement or affidavit by feds, or provided by federal informants or federal undercovers. You’d be astounded how much of it simply isn’t true.

Re: If you see the cops, start recording

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Post by oaue0823 »

jbarberu wrote: post #13
footnipple wrote: post #5

First of all. Thank God for the police. Thankfully there are men and women that are willing to serve in this role because the Thin Blue Line is a very real thing. There is not very much standing between order and chaos, and after seeing much chaos, I choose order. Having said that, absolutely have a dashcam/recording device in your car. I do and it has saved me from getting a very big fine in addition to providing ho…

Similarly, if you find the actions of the drug cartels reprehensible, you should join them and change them from within. /s

If you find actions of criminals, you should join them and change them from within, or join the police and fight them.

What's the difference exactly ?

Re: If you see the cops, start recording

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Post by chrisco255 »

jbarberu wrote: post #13
footnipple wrote: post #5

First of all. Thank God for the police. Thankfully there are men and women that are willing to serve in this role because the Thin Blue Line is a very real thing. There is not very much standing between order and chaos, and after seeing much chaos, I choose order. Having said that, absolutely have a dashcam/recording device in your car. I do and it has saved me from getting a very big fine in addition to providing ho…

Similarly, if you find the actions of the drug cartels reprehensible, you should join them and change them from within. /s

Yeah, because false equivalence is not a thing. Police are funded by the public for the public.

Re: If you see the cops, start recording

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Post by ngngngng »

dominotw wrote: post #15
travjones wrote: post #4

Cops may ask you not to record and even threaten you with arrest for recording. Do not be intimidated; it is your right to record without obstructing. If you find yourself in a situation where you might be detained and thereby unable to control interactions with your device, on iPhone you can disable TouchID and FaceID by holding one of the volume buttons and the sleep/wake button simultaneously for a few seconds. Th…

I carry my insta 360 with me but dont' wear it. People can start wearing gopro if the want to record without being conspicuous.

I think I'll go buy gopro stock before their inevitable pivot to making inconspicuous body cams for people to wear every day.

Re: If you see the cops, start recording

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Post by staticassertion »

chrisco255 wrote: post #21
cwkoss wrote: post #6

I think half of the police force should be 'armed' with nothing more than cameras. Arrests are not necessary in the vast majority of situations police are called for, and recording technology is far superior to verbal testimony for serving our courts

Cops carry guns because the situation can always get out of hand. Violent criminals still exist in society. EDIT: the ignorant people claiming average police officer does not deal with violent criminals have obviously never worked as a first responder. They deal with rape, suicide, murder, assault, domestic abuse, robbery, every week unless they're some small town cop in a gilded neighborhood. The cops in St. Louis,…

How much of our police force deals with legitimate violent crime?

The vast majority of police do not need guns.

edit:

> hey deal with rape, suicide, murder, assault, domestic abuse, robbery, every week unless they're some small town cop in a gilded neighborhood.

Can you back this up? Statistics I've seen do not support your claim, and put violent crimes under 5% of police investigations.

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