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Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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Re: Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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Ordering they have to hire a Latino or Asian would be just as bad.

Reddit thrived because it was a platform for all misfits - not just left wing misfits.

Aaron Swartz is rolling in his grave. He felt it was better that extremists be exposed in the light of day rather than be hidden on private chat boards. He also would have been against dark patterns to make people install a phone app so Reddit can spy on your telemetry for advertisers.

Re: Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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No the sub doesn't exist anymore. There was an admin takeover and they left it in this odd "technically existing" state for some reason. TD is gone - you can look for stories about it some months ago.

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/gshffi/trump_si... The sub clearly exists, comments are clearly recent, and CovfefeBucks (the most recent mod) is clearly submitting content (linked). Not sure why you insist on gaslighting, but that makes this our last interaction.

The top comment on the link you posted is, "Are we back?" Reply is "Still only approved posters I think."

The link itself is to a pinned, mod-posted, announcement link to an article about an executive order to strip social media platforms from liability protections from charges of bias.

The most recent non-announcement post was two months ago.

Other choice top-level comments:

- "Huh and coincidentally I see a TD post on my feed for the first time in months."

- "TD COME BACK"

- "The Phoenix shall rise from the ashes"

- "OMG it’s been so long, I have missed you all my friends!!!"

Meanwhile, taking a jaunt to thedonald.win, shows what is basically a reddit clone with much more activity, easily verifiable with two minutes examination.

I'm not a /r/the_donald reader/subscriber/whatever, and haven't followed whatever reddit drama has transpired, but it's pretty clear they've been shut down for a while.

Re: Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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BS. The only difference between the two discussion groups is that TD dropped all the pretense. I have seen the same kinds of things that are loosely defined as 'calls to violence' in both places.

The “only difference” between a group of fascist white supremacists who fantasize about violently exterminating their perceived enemies and a bunch of ordinary people in a community organized around discussing newspaper/news magazine articles who are scared about the growing threat of fascist white supremacists and want them voted out of office and removed from positions of power is that the former have “dropped the…

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Re: Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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I think if TD were banned in 2016, there's a decent chance the world would look even worse and more polarized today, due to the backlash and chain reactions that would have occurred. Picture "TOP SOCIAL MEDIA COMPANY BANS SUPPORT OF THE PRESIDENT" headlines running for months. Picture Trump bringing it up in hundreds of speeches and tweets, demanding regulation and saying how unfair it is that he and his supporters a…

And? De-platforming works very effectively. Look at 8chan, Gab and Voat. All drowning in server costs trying to host "safe spaces" for certain opinions.

Yes.. Censorship is wonderful

and make no mistake "de-platforming" is censorship

Re: Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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The radical right capitalized on the whole gamergate scandal to push their agendas, and their fathers and grandfathers wouldn't have generally identified as gamers.

Gamergate in no way was totally responsible for the election of Trump. If anything invoking that Bannon capitalized on a small fraction of people in the movement is used as a cudgel by those wishing to shove their own political agenda down "gamer culture's" throat. Feeling excluded? Why not just destroy it instead. Pathetic.

I didn't accuse them of being responsible for the election of Trump, I accused them of being radicalized by far right entities.

Re: Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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BS. The only difference between the two discussion groups is that TD dropped all the pretense. I have seen the same kinds of things that are loosely defined as 'calls to violence' in both places.

The “only difference” between a group of fascist white supremacists who fantasize about violently exterminating their perceived enemies and a bunch of ordinary people in a community organized around discussing newspaper/news magazine articles who are scared about the growing threat of fascist white supremacists and want them voted out of office and removed from positions of power is that the former have “dropped the…

> group of fascist white supremacists who fantasize about violently exterminating their perceived enemies

Ummm, what? so people that support the President are all fascist white supremacists? Is that really where we're at in this country? What about the sizable number of blacks/latinos/and asians that support him, are they white supremacists too?

"white supremacist" and "racist", two terms that have been watered down so much that they've effectively lost all meaning.

Re: Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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The agenda is clearly supported by management at reddit.

I'm guessing there's really nothing that would convince you that your views just aren't as popular with reddit's audience as you think. You'll have more luck with the Facebook 5G truther crowd.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist, what I'm saying is widely acknowledged...

Re: Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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I think that resignation as a form of protest can be powerful when you are a junior member of a team and you think senior members are doing the wrong thing. But when you are on the board of directors, you are the boss. In that case resignation is an abdication of leadership and a tacit admission that you have done a poor job.

From what I've seen, junior staff protest-quitting has little to no impact, as they're generally viewed by higher ups as easily replaceable.

Senior level people in meaningful positions (as opposed to figureheads) are harder to replace, and protest-quitting will have more impact, but in most cases, those impacts tend to be short-term, especially with larger organizations.

Re: Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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post #304

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And? De-platforming works very effectively. Look at 8chan, Gab and Voat. All drowning in server costs trying to host "safe spaces" for certain opinions.

Yes.. Censorship is wonderful and make no mistake "de-platforming" is censorship

We make value judgements all the time. Reddit puts a NSFW spoiler on violence, porn, etc. Is that considered censorship?

Is it really censorship if r/t_d had violated numerous Reddit ToS rules? Rules which all users agreed on when signing up.

Make no mistake, it's a no brainer to ban a community that is both outwardly hateful, and regularly abuses the rules of the site they're hosted on.

Re: Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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Let's be honest and realize that for some tech senior execs, they've been made aware of these issues many times in the past.

I'm not getting into whether it's right or not to have a code of conduct, just whether these statements or actions are really deserving of much if anything.

What I find most interesting about all of this "woke" behavior from Ellen Pao and Alexis Ohanian is this:

A few years ago, when racism was brought up on social media during the 2016 US election and a Canadian federal election, Alexis publicly pushed back.

Similarly, activists complained that Pao hired people who had worked at Reddit and previously discounted policies against homophobic, bigoted, racist, etc subreddits and comments/harassment.

People like these were in charge of a world famous, social media site where they were more aware than many others in tech about the very things they are now aghast over.

To me, it's a bit like if I'm telling a software manager about bugs in some banking application that can sometimes deduct money from random accounts and they're like "Ship it, ship it anyway!" lol.

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