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Ask HN: How do I reach making $1-1.5k/mo in 13 months?

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Re: Ask HN: How do I reach making $1-1.5k/mo in 13 months?

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This thread is great, every suggestion has a reply that says "This is terrible advice." Might I suggest people stop giving advice if they haven't actually done it themselves? Just spewing what you think should work, or what you think you've seen people do could be super harmful to this person's career. Let's hear some first hand stories of what worked, not second/third/imaginary hard stories of what people think shou…

> This thread is great, every suggestion has a reply that says "This is terrible advice." That's good! Someone smart and driven will inhale every reply and pull out common tidbits for experimentation.

Where is the line between driven and desperate?

Re: Ask HN: How do I reach making $1-1.5k/mo in 13 months?

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What I've seen that has worked in the past is this: Pick an open source project that is in a language that is respectable and commit to contributing to it for three or four months. Full time. Try to make sure that your written English is clear and professional in things like PRs. Try to keep your code as clean and as well tested and linted as possible. Once the core team gets to know you a bit you'll be able to reach…

Who is making $500,000 per year as a developer?

That seems outlandish. Edge case-ey.

Outside of maybe quants, what type of developers are pulling that kind of income?

Re: Ask HN: How do I reach making $1-1.5k/mo in 13 months?

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post #170

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This isn't related to OP questions but moreso to your situation. I work in a hospital and I was talking to an occupational health safety advisor (probably makes CAD $80k/yr). He told me he was an ED physician in his home country of Colombia for 25 years. He can't practice here in Canada without going through full training again. He would make $300k/yr or more if he was able to practice. I asked him what was different…

Nurses too. But it's a bit more of a nuanced problem. The nursing exam in the U.S. is called the NCLEX. American nursing school grads pass this test at a rate of 90%. International candidates pass at a rate of 36%. Are the international nurses that bad? No, they are not acclimated to the cultural milieu that is unwritten in every question (including English vocabulary of course).

That's one of those typical US healthcare problems you think you're so great for. For example in Europe, medical professionals are free to seek work in any member country [0]. Although definitely not perfect due to "EU membership", it's still pretty valuable (and logical, common sense, etc) when we're talking about healthcare providers. Also note, that while a lot or most of European nurses will of course speak English, only 2 of the member countries are English natives, yet that's still doesn't seem to be that much of an issue. The entire US healthcare system is just basically a capitalistic shitshow which everybody in the planet knows except for most of you guys apparently.

[0] http://www.euro.who.int/en/about-us/partners/observatory/pub...

Re: Ask HN: How do I reach making $1-1.5k/mo in 13 months?

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What I've seen that has worked in the past is this: Pick an open source project that is in a language that is respectable and commit to contributing to it for three or four months. Full time. Try to make sure that your written English is clear and professional in things like PRs. Try to keep your code as clean and as well tested and linted as possible. Once the core team gets to know you a bit you'll be able to reach…

Jobs paying 500k a year are very rare. You need to be a top programmer and you need luck. It is like recommending to be an elite athlete.

Ok. Haha. That was my thought as well.

$500k seems outlandish, not that some aren't making that, but who pays that...

Maybe 1 in every 1,000 dev jobs can even approach $500k.

Re: Ask HN: How do I reach making $1-1.5k/mo in 13 months?

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>Most people who do FOSS don’t do it with the goal of being paid for it. It depends how you define "doing" FOSS. Yes, certainly there are many people who casually fool around with FOSS with no expectation of payment. And even a fair number of people who have some sort of spare time FOSS hobby. But most of the big FOSS projects (especially server infrastructure/platforms) depend heavily on developers and others gettin…

Most of the big FOSS projects depend on their core contributors being paid to work on them. Most sports teams pay highly too. It doesn't mean that most people playing sports are playing on a professional team. It also doesn't mean the professional teams pay their fans anything—despite said fans doing, in aggregate, as much (in PR et al) to earn the team their high pay scales, as the team itself does. Both big FOSS pr…

>Also keep in mind that many critical FOSS projects aren't big. Many are one-man shows.

Absolutely. That's why the Core Infrastructure Initiative was created a few years ago for example. While I haven't made an exhaustive study, my sense is that the situation is at least better today than it was a few years ago, especially with respect to security issues. Though always more work to do to support developers working on critical infrastructure of course.

Yes, there is a long tail on projects like the Linux kernel. But a lot of that long tail doesn't individually do a lot of work. And, according to the seemingly latest Kernel development report that I have: "Well over 85 percent of all kernel development is demonstrably done by developers who are being paid for their work."

Re: Ask HN: How do I reach making $1-1.5k/mo in 13 months?

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Learn to write well. You can make 1k-1.5k/month starting next month if you can author good blog posts for businesses. Writing content, like coding, is something where the time investment cannot be "hacked." For a 1200 word blog post someone has to sit at the computer and actually write the 1200 words. That takes time. In many cases there is no content writer on staff and someone has to do the work. I'd say 90% of the…

I’d also like to know how to make money with writing if you wouldn’t mind going into the details

Someone emailed me a couple hours ago off this thread and I'll share here what I replied with. I've removed client names because, well, go get your own clients.

-- Yessir, happy to share. Here are some pieces we have written in the last couple of years that commanded at least $500 per. I will trust your HN'honor to try not to poach or anything, and it wouldn't work anyway.

(redacted)

Many people (including many who post on HN) think "That doesn't seem so special. I could do that." But that misses the point. As I mentioned in the post it takes TIME to write something of quality that people want to read. The internet is full of bad blog posts so companies are looking for quality writing that has a point of view. If you imagine that a proper blog post would take approx 4 hours to research, draft, edit, review then the company/customer has to decide whether to allocate a $60k/year full time employee to writing it (which would be approx $120 of salary) or they can farm it out and put that employee on something with more measurable ROI like PPC management.

Organizations know they need blog posts and those that (1) have a good revenue footprint and (2) sell to the enterprise view blogs differently: it isn't always about getting a new lead and SEO. It's also about VALIDATING a decision a prospect is already thinking of making when they come to the site. The piece for (redacted) above wasn't about getting new leads or SEO juice or shares. It was specifically written to help them close a deal with a large TV studio that wanted to make sure their web partner was led by honest enthusiasts and not some anonymous ownership group. We turned it around in 2 days so they could get it in front of the prospective client before a decision on the RFP was made. We wrote that post while they were in a competitive situation against a much larger firm (Leo Burnett), a firm that has amazing work didn't know how to display the same "human" personality. (Our client) won the 6 figure deal. The money they paid us for the post was customer acquisition cost no different than having taken the prospect to a fancy dinner.

If you want a roadmap: Find companies b/w 10 and 50M in revenue Find those that are publishing blog posts irregularly or not at all. Irregular means they are doing it themselves without much structure. Not at all means they aren't doing it at all. If they are posting on the same day each week or every other week then someone has beaten you to the punch; move on. Reach out with a HIGHLY customized email message and offer to write one post at no charge. This is your "offer they can't refuse." The post is their's to use however they like even if they don't pay you. Ask, however, that if they do like it that they spend 15 minutes on a call so you can hear their ideas if they had unlimited blogging capacity and then share how you might be the person to fill that need.

From there we usually get people into a blog services contract of $1,000/month for a post b/w 700 and 1000 words 4x a month. If they want us to do the content map, post more, come up with the post ideas, fast turnaround, etc. then the price goes up. We have a number of $2,500/month contracts that include us doing the calendar along with the subjects/strategy, 4x blog posts, and 1x longform (eBook or whitepaper). I farm the work out for approx 40% of what we charge the client.

It's not a very difficult sell. Good luck.

Re: Ask HN: How do I reach making $1-1.5k/mo in 13 months?

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I did an MSDA, and I wanted to let you know that you're cutting off the majority of your opportunities for Data roles if you aren't specializing in a business component as well. For me, it was Sales. Started out as a Jr. Analyst and within a year owned all Sales Ops and Sales Enablement. Was a small 60-person, $23MM training company, but my skill with data paired with projects like forecasting models, process optimiz…

Thanks for your considerations. I have a soft spot for financial and educational things. More the second than in first. For the first one is imperative (If I want a career in a company) that I move to Sao Paulo, and I have no desire to do that. Rio is already full of mega city problems, but I manage to have some good life here. In Sao Paulo you need to make more concessions in quality of life to land on the nicest jo…

> Remote working is something that I really desire, because I like nature, doing crafts with wood, you know, some place to get energies back. But I have a intense fear for risking my family safety by doing that.

Do you mean financial safety or personal safety?

I live in Argentina working remotely for over 10 years now. I moved from a medium city (1.5 M people) to nowhere in the mountains, and can't be happier. Right now kids are playing on the street, I'm working outdoors... will never go back to a city.

I heard that Rio/SP aren't that safe.

BTW, I'm also learning Python for Data. Finished the Data Analyst w/ Python on DataCamp.

Re: Ask HN: How do I reach making $1-1.5k/mo in 13 months?

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Most of these projects are waaaaaaay to slow to reach profitability. You want product market fit ASAP. I also don't think it should be a programming project. Code is a tool, like anything else, and if you have no experience, it's tough to compete with experienced toolmakers. Instead, leverage some domain specific knowledge to be competitive.

Does your country have a robust eBay market? I've found plenty of "beer money" success selling specific things there. If you know more about something than almost anyone else, you can monetize that via eBay easily and with excellent reach.

For example, there's plenty of sellers in Russia/Eastern Europe selling vintage soviet machining/radiation equipment. In SE Asia, a million mom and pop shops moving ICs. In Japan, high quality tooling. Plenty of people all over just hawking the results of a university auction. I even buy from a guy in the US who only sells refractory ceramics. You can find incredible niche stores on eBay who are doing very well.

Where the coding comes in is automating everything. For example, code to automatically print labels for my packages. A local database to manage quantities. A (rudimentary!) pricing algorithm to maximize volume or profit; the possibilities are endless. These projects are easy to justify, and the immediate improvement is clear.

Re: Ask HN: How do I reach making $1-1.5k/mo in 13 months?

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I'm not telling you specifically who, obviously, but we have 3 clients that order a post from us about once a month for at least $1,000. The posts typically are: - 2000 to 2500 words - FAST (48 hour) turnaround - ready to be published without more than a simple read through - voice consistent with other posts that we may not have written for them - well cited or referenced The clients are - b2b environment selling in…

2-2.5K for a blog post sounds excessive in length, specially for b2b companies that sounds like they post often. I have quite a few blog posts and 1200-1600 is the sweet spot that I get pretty much 100% readership. Anything longer than that gets bookmarked but never read.

I'm glad that works for you. Long form posts (2k+) are most often deep product breakdown/review or how-to guides. My experience has been that such pieces perform very well across a variety of important metrics when the quality is high.

Re: Ask HN: How do I reach making $1-1.5k/mo in 13 months?

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3pt14159 isn't saying that noddly should try and make money doing open source. Noddly should gain the respect of an open source maintainer. These maintainers receive lots of requests for job openings and contract positions. Most of it is just recruiter spam, but some of it is real and the maintainer would be happy to forward them on to someone they respect, along with a recommendation. It's that recommendation that's…

I had very few job offers originate from FOSS (maybe 2 in 4 years?). I suspect there's a narrow field where people recruit using FOSS/GitHub and I'm not involved in it. JavaScript based projects seem to be doing much better from an outsider perspective. I got more out of having a decent looking LinkedIn account.

I've had quite a few job offers from my weblog over the years, most of them actually pretty decent from HN readers and such (rather different from LinkedIn and recruiter spam). Never from open source thus far.
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