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But that's why she was ousted: https://www.wired.com/2015/07/reddit-ceo-ellen-pao-steps-dow... Turns out only allowing speech that you deem acceptable makes for a pretty boring internet forum.
Here we are on HN, one of the most censored and moderated forums on the internet. Personally, I find it quite refreshing.
Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit
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What "political agenda"? If anything, the original core of the site was very left-leaning or heterodox technophiles that didn't have a home on Slashdot. The political parts of the site are now very much deadlocked in the center-right frame of the Democratic party, pretty far away from what the site once was.
> the original core of the site was very left-leaning I don't remember it that way. I remember it being very libertarian (Ron Paul was the Bernie Sanders of 2000's reddit) for a very long time. I believed that the shift to a left-wing orientation was organic and representative of the general population UNTIL the whole T_D thing came along... T_D was doing the same thing, pulling the site to the right, until Reddit's…
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Yeah, TD alone was huge in 2016-2017 and was a huge contributor to the dynamic we have in the world today. Ellen is 100% right here and Alex did absolutely nothing to address it. Good on her for publicly calling it out.
> Yeah, TD alone was huge in 2016-2017 and was a huge contributor to the dynamic we have in the world today Can you elaborate as to why? I'm not really sure how a subreddit is responsible for hate + violence + racism. How does freedom of speech/thought only work one way?
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right? i never ever see right wing content on reddit's /r/all frontpage, but i ALWAYS see left-wing content (including there small subreddits with 10k+ upvotes). see, i'm not conservative (i'm absurdly socially liberal and a bit fiscally conservative -- i prefer less taxes and less government spending in general) but it's baffling that people call reddit a "right-wing-cesspool". if you look at unfiltered /r/all right…
I'm fiscally conservative, and even trying to discuss those ideas on Reddit has met me with downvotes galore without being discussed. Even while trying to be respectful and open-minded. I gave up after a while. A lot of people can't fathom how conservative ideas would be shunned on there until they actually try to discuss them. Reddit is comprised of a lot of younger people who are indoctrinated to think in certain w…
People who have great points against the hive mind are often downvoted into oblivion. It's less of a place for discourse and more a place for voicing agreement. The worst experiences I've had are in the socialist/communist subreddits themselves. I've been banned from those places for saying things like "artists and homemakers are proletariat." I guess if you don't have a hammer in your hand you're just a neo-liberal reactionary??
And sure, T_D is a violent cesspool that should have been gone long ago, but in general I'm sick of social media platforms deciding for us what views are acceptable and what aren't. Their algorithms constantly guide people into weird places that drive engagement but at the expense of critical thought and real public discourse.
I'd much prefer free speech and neutral platforms over corporations deciding what we are to believe. But I suppose reddit's problems are now cultural and that's a more difficult problem to fix than adjusting an algorithm.
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#265Relevant context: recently, former Reddit CEO Ellen Pao called out Reddit for their policies after Reddit did a statement on Black Lives Matter: > I am obligated to call you out: You should have shut down the_donald instead of amplifying it and its hate, racism, and violence. So much of what is happening now lies at your feet. You don't get to say BLM when reddit nurtures and monetizes white supremacy and hate all da…
Yeah! How dare they refuse to deplatform 40-60% of the population after they've been thoroughly slandered and misrepresented as white supremacists!
This kind of treatment is breeding so called white supremacy. You are forcing people to choose between "us" and "them". White supremacy is the modern day red scare - except this time the people being targeted are average middle class joes and they probably still represent the majority in this country.
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Here's a relevant totally hypothetical "long con" involving Ellen Pao's hiring-and-firing and re-hiring of the original founders: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/3cs78i/whats_the... The hypothesis is posed by Yishan Wong, an ex-CEO, with responses from Altman and Ohanian. edit: I made a mistake understanding this story. Please see the correct timeline in geofft's comment.
Relevant, but I think the timeline is a bit subtler than that. (Mostly, the CEO referenced in that story is Wong himself, not Pao.) - Reddit was acquired by Condé Nast in 2006. - Founders Alexis Ohanian and Steve Huffman left in 2009. - Yishan Wong became CEO in March 2012. - Reddit raised its Series B in September 2014, led by Sam Altman. Wong was one of the investors. - Wong resigns in November 2014. Ellen Pao beco…
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I'm shocked, shocked to find that a bunch of college-aged males are pushing narratives such as legalizing weed on you. Must be DNC bots.
The agenda is clearly supported by management at reddit.
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>So on a supposedly unbiased website the only place conservatives can hang out is at r/unpopularopinion? That doesn't sound wrong to you? Conservatives are a minority in America, so it makes sense their opinions would be unpopular by virtue of that. There's nothing that's not political, every aspect of life is political, how we distribute resources, interact with our neighbors, basically everything is political and s…
If they are a minority then how did they manage to elect a president?
[1] https://splinternews.com/here-is-the-final-popular-vote-coun...
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If you consider KIA, unpopularopinion and making fun of TLOU2 as vile then I'm not sure what that word even means. plus: There are regular calls to murder all cops these days on reddit. In plain sight. Just imagine what would happen for any of those "bad" subs if they wouldn't remove those within seconds.
KIA is undeniably vile. If you don't consider it vile I'm not sure what that word even means.
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>So on a supposedly unbiased website the only place conservatives can hang out is at r/unpopularopinion? That doesn't sound wrong to you? Conservatives are a minority in America, so it makes sense their opinions would be unpopular by virtue of that. There's nothing that's not political, every aspect of life is political, how we distribute resources, interact with our neighbors, basically everything is political and s…
If they are a minority then how did they manage to elect a president?
The Senate holds a conservative majority because it's structured to represent land rather than people, and conservatives are occasionally able to take the House because they use districting to deprive the majority of voters of the majority of representation.