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Government finally publishes NHS contracts with Palantir, Faculty and big tech

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Re: Government finally publishes NHS contracts with Palantir, Faculty and big tech

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This has of course been Dominic Cummings’s plan for years - you can read about it quite openly on his blog, and on the blog of his friend American physicist/eugenicist Steve Hsu. The point is to allow private industry to capture the health information of private citizens in order to turn Britain into a genetic modification powerhouse- pitched on the basis of fighting genetic diseases, but in fact founded on the anti-…

Can you provide some references to the more egregious articles?

Re: Government finally publishes NHS contracts with Palantir, Faculty and big tech

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At this point, if you work at Palantir, you should be very ashamed of yourself and please consider quitting.

"Predictive policing" using Palantir in US cities didn't raise big red alarm bells years ago? I kind of think this story is tame compared to what they've been up to.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/27/17054740/palantir-predict...

https://theintercept.com/2018/05/11/predictive-policing-surv...

https://www.technologyreview.com/2019/02/13/137444/predictiv...

Re: Government finally publishes NHS contracts with Palantir, Faculty and big tech

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I actually think that should become a general rule. Way too many US-related titles about things far less well known than the NHS.

NHS in general is way less known than UK citizens think. Especially in Europe where the existence of a national healthcare system is not a religion but a norm.

I hear about NHS extremely often. I’m German

Re: Government finally publishes NHS contracts with Palantir, Faculty and big tech

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After reading the article, I think it's quite clear that both Palantir and Google paid someone off to get this contract.

"campaign" donations. Perfectly legal

Doubtful. There's far less money in politics in the UK than in the US. The total donations the Labour party received in the 2019 general election would barely be enough to elect a single senator.

Re: Government finally publishes NHS contracts with Palantir, Faculty and big tech

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

NHS in general is way less known than UK citizens think. Especially in Europe where the existence of a national healthcare system is not a religion but a norm.

I hear about NHS extremely often. I’m German

If you use Hacker News, you probably do hear about it often.

Do German newspapers cover the news about NHS all the time?

Re: Government finally publishes NHS contracts with Palantir, Faculty and big tech

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This has of course been Dominic Cummings’s plan for years - you can read about it quite openly on his blog, and on the blog of his friend American physicist/eugenicist Steve Hsu. The point is to allow private industry to capture the health information of private citizens in order to turn Britain into a genetic modification powerhouse- pitched on the basis of fighting genetic diseases, but in fact founded on the anti-…

You seem to have confused HN for The guardian comments section friend.

Re: Government finally publishes NHS contracts with Palantir, Faculty and big tech

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As a UK taxpayer this makes me so angry. The fact this incredibly valuable (not to mention privacy sensitive) data is given away through backroom deals for a pittance without any transparency is just infuriating.

If things like this upset you, you are seriously naive about the operations of your government. As a former Palantir employee, I can say with some confidence that the govt and private company's make efforts to ensure these things remain secret..

You shouldn’t be less upset or angry just because you understand how the world works. Cynicism is self-defeating. Never resign yourself to this crap

Re: Government finally publishes NHS contracts with Palantir, Faculty and big tech

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As a UK taxpayer this makes me so angry. The fact this incredibly valuable (not to mention privacy sensitive) data is given away through backroom deals for a pittance without any transparency is just infuriating.

I live in the US and used to build products to deal with sensitive healthcare data. I recall talking to an Important Person from the NHS, years ago, who proudly told me that the NHS could do things with its healthcare data that US companies could not- without having to deal with things like HIPAA, etc. I told them that while they might be able to do that, it would probably make a bunch of people mad if they weren't t…

HIPAA protects us less than most people think. As they say, the "P" in HIPAA is not for Privacy.

Re: Government finally publishes NHS contracts with Palantir, Faculty and big tech

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That might be good advice in general, but I don't think that works with medical data. If I get hurt and end up in a hospital, how would the surgeons decrypt my hard drive to find my medical history if I'm unconscious? Obviously I need to entrust this data to somebody. Edit: Not being a doctor, it's difficult for me to anticipate what sort of information doctors would consider relevant. Certainly there are some easy c…

I'm willing the accept the 5% extra chance of death entailed by some emergency doctor not knowing my medical history. If I have something crucial, like an allergy to medication, I guess I'd just get that tattooed somewhere obvious. In the vast majority of emergency cases for the vast majority of patients, I don't think one's medical history is going to be a significant factor in getting them out of the woods far enou…

Why do you think you're informed enough to know what doctors need to know about your medical history to best treat you?
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