Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit • Hacker News Board

Re: Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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Post by pstuart » Fri, Jun 05, 2020, 5:37 PM UTC

ilikehurdles wrote: post #89

buttersbrian wrote: post #64

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> So much of what is happening now lies at your feet. I just don't know how much of a responsibility reddit has in strong-arming sub-reddits that are communities, whether we like them or not. So I struggle with Ellen's indictment. It makes it seem like Reddit is a root level cause for where we are at today -- It's not, and is only a symptom. I believe it is unfair to say reddit, and their (somewhat) hands off approac…

Reddit, among other social media websites, has been used as an avenue for the radicalization of, particularly, young males.

Young males are primed for radicalization in general.

Re: Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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Post by throwaway45783 » Fri, Jun 05, 2020, 5:37 PM UTC

lksaar wrote: post #49

psychometry wrote: post #6

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You must be kidding. Please tell me you're kidding. Ever been to /r/the_donald? /r/conspiracy? /r/protectandserve?

r/mgtow, r/metacanada, r/KotakuInAction, r/TumblrinAction, r/unpopularopinion, r/politicalcompassmemes are candidates. The subreddit about the upcoming AAA game "The Last of Us 2" is pretty vile aswell.

unpopularopinion and politicalcompassmemes are not even remotely close to being candidates and including them in your list sounds very extreme and politically correct.

Re: Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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Post by bluedino » Fri, Jun 05, 2020, 5:37 PM UTC

v64 wrote: post #114

edc117 wrote: post #96

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As someone that doesn't use reddit much, could you explain? I thought the front page was essentially a combination of popular things from the subreddits you regularly visit?

That's if you're a user. They're referring to defaults like r/all and r/popular.

Or if you click 'Popular' in the Reddit app.

Re: Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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Post by dmoy » Fri, Jun 05, 2020, 5:38 PM UTC

jimbob45 wrote: post #23

Reddit mods wantonly abuse their power and I'm not even talking about politics. Ever been to r/science? 8/10 comments are deleted and those posts can't be read ever again (I'm understating that number, if anything). Honestly, half the reason I come here is because you can still view dead comments - censorship is a surefire way to get me to leave your community.

I don't moderate r/science, but I do help moderate a pretty big sub that is unrelated to politics that similarly tries with varying success to be polite and on topic

There's a lot of bot and other obvious spam that we catch with programmatic moderation

The vast majority of comments we manually remove fall into one of four categories:

* Stuff that is just random off topic, nothing to do with the sub

* Stuff we redirect to another sub (politics, relationships, etc)

* Stuff that is scammy, or straight up soliciting

* Stuff that is outright insulting ad hominems. The bad end of this category makes you lose faith in humanity, so you kinda have to turn off your soul when moderating.

So if I had to guess, a good chunk of those deleted r/science comments aren't just "scientific opion with no basis" or "flat earth!", but also things closer the form " \\\\ you \\\\ing \\\\, your \\\\ing mother too, I hope you all \\\\ing burn in hell you \\\\ \\\\\* \\\\\*".

Re: Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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Post by FeepingCreature » Fri, Jun 05, 2020, 5:38 PM UTC

JoeSmithson wrote: post #60

say_it_as_it_is wrote: post #42

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You're giving a message forum way too much credit for Trumpism in the United States. Do you actually think that social media is representative of a majority?

Steve Bannon has spoken about specifically targeting Gamergate for political recruitment, I think the role of Reddit in radicalizing young men is quite important, actually. I don't think you could write a reasonable history of the last 10 years of US politics without reference to Reddit, Twitter, Facebook and 4Chan.

To be fair: that doesn't mean social media has any relevance, just that some people on both sides think it does.

Re: Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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Post by braythwayt » Fri, Jun 05, 2020, 5:39 PM UTC

nilkn wrote: post #46

minimaxir wrote: post #3

Relevant context: recently, former Reddit CEO Ellen Pao called out Reddit for their policies after Reddit did a statement on Black Lives Matter: > I am obligated to call you out: You should have shut down the_donald instead of amplifying it and its hate, racism, and violence. So much of what is happening now lies at your feet. You don't get to say BLM when reddit nurtures and monetizes white supremacy and hate all da…

This is just scape-goating and finding something recent to blame for a situation that has been going on for 150+ years. Besides, it was effectively shut down, and all that did was lead to the creation of thedonald.win, which by all appearances seems to be thriving and growing rapidly, probably much faster than Reddit itself grew when it was founded. To blame the situation on a forum is to misunderstand that the count…

That sounds like you’re saying that it’s a waste of time to ever try to change anything because, well, “history.”

Feel free to disabuse me of my misconception if I misunderstand. But it sounds an awful lot like what some people say when you try to call out racist cops: “We’re just scapegoating someone for saying aloud what all the police are thinking. It’s a waste of time.”

Re: Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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Post by sickygnar » Fri, Jun 05, 2020, 5:39 PM UTC

nromiun wrote: post #86

Reddit and 4Chan are the two sides of the same coin for me. Just their ideologies are different. At least the people on 4Chan are self aware about how toxic they are. But the mods (at least on the popular subreddits) on reddit love to ban anything that isn't far left. I don't mind echo chambers but the lack of self awareness always rubs me the wrong way.

4chan is unmoderated, reddit is heavily moderated. how on earth are they 2 sides of the same coin?

nowadays, it seems like anything unmoderated starts going right. it used to be the opposite.

mildly OT - the only thing they have in common is that they are infiltrated by bots which just serve to amplify the extreme discourse. there are some interesting bot-bait threads on 4chan where people communicate text via obfuscated text images, but bait bots with text replies (i.e. "hillary bad pizzagate"). the bot replies then become obvious because they reply to the bait text which is off-subject, but the real people reply to the text images with obfuscated text images. the bots were right wing extremist and comprised maybe 60% of the replies.

i saw someone had an interesting idea to make a "deep fried" image board or plugin, where text replies are posted as obfuscated images which are unreadable by bots, so people can more easily distinguish bot replies from human. i imagine discourse would improve considerably.

Re: Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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Post by jedmeyers » Fri, Jun 05, 2020, 5:39 PM UTC

stronglikedan wrote: post #113

ralusek wrote: post #16

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Reddit is responsible for the fact that 24% of people killed by police are black?

> 24% of people killed by police are black > African Americans, however, account for 24 percent of those fatally shot and killed by the police despite being just 13 percent of the U.S. population. As The Post noted in a new analysis published last week, that means black Americans are 2.5 times as likely as white Americans to be shot and killed by police officers. [0] [0] https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-natio…

> black Americans are 2.5 times as likely as white Americans to be shot and killed by police officers.

If we are going into this statistics: using your terminology, how much less likely that a “black American” will commit a crime that causes arrest (or a police interaction) than a “white American“?

Re: Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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Post by devado » Fri, Jun 05, 2020, 5:39 PM UTC

psychometry wrote: post #67

throwaway45783 wrote: post #26

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What's wrong with /r/conspiracy?

The same thing that's wrong with conspiracy theories (e.g. Q). Lunatics flock to platforms that let them disseminate their lies.

but everything is cleanly tagged under /r/conspiracy ?

Re: Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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Post by lolbrels » Fri, Jun 05, 2020, 5:39 PM UTC

eganist wrote: post #27

s9w wrote: post #19

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It's really not - look at the dates. There was some bullshit going on, there is nothing left.

> Only approved users may post in this community. So now it's the truest propaganda machine, you're saying. Approved users only for consumption by a dedicated subscriber base.

You seem pretty out of touch and sound like a crazed lunatic. They moved platforms to stop being censored and only maintain the subreddit so it cannot be taken by another moderator and manipulated.

Bye bye.