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Re: Amazon refuses to sell book on Covid-19 and lockdowns

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post #17

Official sources are continuing to mess up, and causing more destruction than this book ever could. The Lancet is about as official as it gets: https://www.thelancet.com/lancet/article/s0140673620313246

I'm generally confused why you are being downvoted for pointing this out.

Re: Amazon refuses to sell book on Covid-19 and lockdowns

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post #2

After a half hour long conversation with my neighbor last week of him trying to convince me that Bill Gates is behind coronavirus, please, for the love of our future, continue banning information that is blatantly put up on a bad faith basis. It's exhausting to see my mom and dad succumb to a new conspiracy every other day. I don't see how else we can curb this other than for the tech companies to start aggressively…

I fear that will only mitigate the spread, not curb the belief in it, unfortunately. If anything so many conspiracy theories seem massively fueled even today by any attempts to silence. I fear something along the lines of education and critical thinking is the only way to deal with this problem. I just don't know how to get there :(

> I fear

thats seems to be the root of the problem. we're a fear driven economy now. That's why conspiracy theories are rampant, as well as actual conspiracies.

I liked the quote from Apocalypto:

> Fear. Deep rotting fear. They were infected by it. Did you see? Fear is a sickness. It will crawl into the soul of anyone who engages it. It has tainted your peace already. I did not raise you to see you live with fear. Strike it from your heart. Do not bring it into our village.

Re: Amazon refuses to sell book on Covid-19 and lockdowns

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post #2

After a half hour long conversation with my neighbor last week of him trying to convince me that Bill Gates is behind coronavirus, please, for the love of our future, continue banning information that is blatantly put up on a bad faith basis. It's exhausting to see my mom and dad succumb to a new conspiracy every other day. I don't see how else we can curb this other than for the tech companies to start aggressively…

Why does he think bill gates is behind COVID? That's a new one I have not seen yet.

Re: Amazon refuses to sell book on Covid-19 and lockdowns

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post #35

There’s a difference between censorship and a book publisher deciding they don’t want to publish or sell a book. This appears to be a case of the later. He’s free to print and distribute his book, but no private company is under any obligation to help him in that endeavor.

Amazon is still selling Mein Kampf, they don't seem to care about it as long as it brings profit?

Mein Kampf is an important document for understanding one of the most significant and tragic events in history. Only the truly ignorant would try to remove it.

Re: Amazon refuses to sell book on Covid-19 and lockdowns

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post #35

There’s a difference between censorship and a book publisher deciding they don’t want to publish or sell a book. This appears to be a case of the later. He’s free to print and distribute his book, but no private company is under any obligation to help him in that endeavor.

Amazon is still selling Mein Kampf, they don't seem to care about it as long as it brings profit?

While I haven't read either, I expect that Mein Kampf has more historical value than the COVID book in question.

Re: Amazon refuses to sell book on Covid-19 and lockdowns

#46
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The guy doesn't have a great record of being trustworthy. See https://www.drugpolicy.org/resource/letter-scholars-and-clin... -- a letter signed by over 100 scholars and researchers strongly condemning his previous book which says that marijuana is the culprit behind violence

The arguments against his book in that post are not particularly damning. More like par-for-the-course for pop science. And it's not like academia is immune to this. Selection bias? Claims of causation? I bet half of the researchers on this list could have their work criticized in a similar manner. >"marijuana makes young black people mentally ill and violent." Interesting framing of his quoted passage. He doesn't sa…

That linked article is a really great example of how not to credibly criticize someone's work. There's a ton of straw man argument going on in there.

Re: Amazon refuses to sell book on Covid-19 and lockdowns

#47
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The guy doesn't have a great record of being trustworthy. See https://www.drugpolicy.org/resource/letter-scholars-and-clin... -- a letter signed by over 100 scholars and researchers strongly condemning his previous book which says that marijuana is the culprit behind violence

The arguments against his book in that post are not particularly damning. More like par-for-the-course for pop science. And it's not like academia is immune to this. Selection bias? Claims of causation? I bet half of the researchers on this list could have their work criticized in a similar manner. >"marijuana makes young black people mentally ill and violent." Interesting framing of his quoted passage. He doesn't sa…

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Re: Amazon refuses to sell book on Covid-19 and lockdowns

#48

There’s a difference between censorship and a book publisher deciding they don’t want to publish or sell a book. This appears to be a case of the later. He’s free to print and distribute his book, but no private company is under any obligation to help him in that endeavor.

You can always just move to another country. Censorship is a complete myth.

Re: Amazon refuses to sell book on Covid-19 and lockdowns

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post #16
post #2

After a half hour long conversation with my neighbor last week of him trying to convince me that Bill Gates is behind coronavirus, please, for the love of our future, continue banning information that is blatantly put up on a bad faith basis. It's exhausting to see my mom and dad succumb to a new conspiracy every other day. I don't see how else we can curb this other than for the tech companies to start aggressively…

Making information unavailable justifies radical conspiracy theories and makes it harder to find trustworthy sources.

It also amplifies the content: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect

Re: Amazon refuses to sell book on Covid-19 and lockdowns

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Free flow of information is not the same as misinformation. Lack of understanding is not the same as misinforming. I 100% support restricting distribution of material that is based on conjecture and bullshit info. Especially when that information comes with a for-profit motive. This person can easily put their book for free on their own website if they really feel they have important information to share. Amazon can…

‘who decides what is bullshit’ Is the usual problem with this.

I don't buy the argument that bullshit exists on a perpetually grey gradient. There are things that are clearly bullshit.
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