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Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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Re: Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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Post by beamatronic »

ripsawridge wrote: post #58
ceejayoz wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's also indicative of one aspect the problem, where we largely don't care until we have a personal stake in things. For another example: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-21804506 > Influential US Republican Senator Rob Portman has renounced his opposition to gay marriage. The Ohio senator said he began to change his mind in 2011 after his son, Will, revealed he was gay. It's great that people change. It's n…

Our aspirations might be vaunting past what humans are generally capable of. I completely agree with you, but since I see over and over (and over) that only direct relationships engender change, I finally conclude that this is where humanity is at. We can call it a bug if we like, but it doesn't mean we can change it. It only looks like a bug now because we are insisting on building complex, globalized societal confi…

Doesn't globalizing promote the creation of more direct relationships, with a broad diversity of people? Giving one a spectrum of ideas and experiences - thereby engendering change?

Re: Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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Post by staycoolboy »

WorkingDead wrote: post #56
purephase wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, TD alone was huge in 2016-2017 and was a huge contributor to the dynamic we have in the world today. Ellen is 100% right here and Alex did absolutely nothing to address it. Good on her for publicly calling it out.

Right, the healthy discussions over r/politics is what they should encourage. /s

Yes, /r/politics is an echo chamber. But there is an enormous difference between that and T_D. I don't ever recall seeing posts on /r/politics being stickied that called for violence, whereas that happened routinely on T_D.

Your comment is not sarcastic, it is misleading, misiniformed and ultimately destructive.

Re: Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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Post by beamatronic »

nromiun wrote: post #86

Reddit and 4Chan are the two sides of the same coin for me. Just their ideologies are different. At least the people on 4Chan are self aware about how toxic they are. But the mods (at least on the popular subreddits) on reddit love to ban anything that isn't far left. I don't mind echo chambers but the lack of self awareness always rubs me the wrong way.

What do you mean by "far left"? Can you give an example?

Re: Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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Post by Sharlin »

attilakun wrote: post #63
jimbob45 wrote: post #23

Reddit mods wantonly abuse their power and I'm not even talking about politics. Ever been to r/science? 8/10 comments are deleted and those posts can't be read ever again (I'm understating that number, if anything). Honestly, half the reason I come here is because you can still view dead comments - censorship is a surefire way to get me to leave your community.

While I'm sure accidents happen, many of those comments are deleted because they are joke comments/shitposts not pertaining to science. In my experience, that kind of content is not tolerated on HN either, probably for the better.

Indeed. If HN were to become as popular as Reddit, and wanted to retain the current quality of discourse, you can bet that the mods would have to delete 80% of comments as well.

Re: Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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Post by edc117 »

logicslave wrote: post #20

Reddit is so manipulated at this point. The front page always has a political agenda, unbelievable what happened to that website.

As someone that doesn't use reddit much, could you explain? I thought the front page was essentially a combination of popular things from the subreddits you regularly visit?

Re: Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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Post by saos »

jimbob45 wrote: post #23

Reddit mods wantonly abuse their power and I'm not even talking about politics. Ever been to r/science? 8/10 comments are deleted and those posts can't be read ever again (I'm understating that number, if anything). Honestly, half the reason I come here is because you can still view dead comments - censorship is a surefire way to get me to leave your community.

Woah. Agreed. Reddit could do way more in that area.

Re: Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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Post by nilkn »

minimaxir wrote: post #44
cataphract wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From what I can see the_donald is effectively dead and theredpill is also quarantined so it might as well be, since quarantined subreddits are always eventually banned.

/r/the_donald was quarantined a year ago and hasn't been banned yet.

No, it has effectively been banned. It was forcefully taken over by the administration. While it technically still exists, it actually moved entirely to its own dedicated website.

Re: Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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Post by jimbob45 »

Sharlin wrote: post #82
jimbob45 wrote: post #23

Reddit mods wantonly abuse their power and I'm not even talking about politics. Ever been to r/science? 8/10 comments are deleted and those posts can't be read ever again (I'm understating that number, if anything). Honestly, half the reason I come here is because you can still view dead comments - censorship is a surefire way to get me to leave your community.

The best subreddits are those that are either a) very tightly moderated or b) obscure enough for the Eternal September not (yet) having happened to them. Most of the rest of the content is extremely low quality.

4chan only removes illegal content and I enjoy it just fine. Reddit’s voting system pushes down low-quality content well enough on its own.

Re: Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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Post by geofft »

ilikehurdles wrote: post #17
minimaxir wrote: post #3

Relevant context: recently, former Reddit CEO Ellen Pao called out Reddit for their policies after Reddit did a statement on Black Lives Matter: > I am obligated to call you out: You should have shut down the_donald instead of amplifying it and its hate, racism, and violence. So much of what is happening now lies at your feet. You don't get to say BLM when reddit nurtures and monetizes white supremacy and hate all da…

Here's a relevant totally hypothetical "long con" involving Ellen Pao's hiring-and-firing and re-hiring of the original founders: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/3cs78i/whats_the... The hypothesis is posed by Yishan Wong, an ex-CEO, with responses from Altman and Ohanian. edit: I made a mistake understanding this story. Please see the correct timeline in geofft's comment.

Relevant, but I think the timeline is a bit subtler than that. (Mostly, the CEO referenced in that story is Wong himself, not Pao.)

- Reddit was acquired by Condé Nast in 2006.

- Founders Alexis Ohanian and Steve Huffman left in 2009.

- Yishan Wong became CEO in March 2012.

- Reddit raised its Series B in September 2014, led by Sam Altman. Wong was one of the investors.

- Wong resigns in November 2014. Ellen Pao becomes interim CEO and Ohanian becomes executive chairman.

- Reddit introduces an anti-harassment policy and bans fatpeoplehate and other subreddits in early summer 2015.

- Later in the summer, Victoria Taylor is fired. Users hold Pao responsible, she apologizes for how it was handled, and she resigns on July 10 under pressure from the board. Huffman becomes CEO.

- One day later, Wong writes the above post.

- One more day later, Wong reveals on Quora that Ohanian, not Pao, fired Taylor.

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