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Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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Re: Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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Post by na85 »

koheripbal wrote: post #59
minimaxir wrote: post #3

Relevant context: recently, former Reddit CEO Ellen Pao called out Reddit for their policies after Reddit did a statement on Black Lives Matter: > I am obligated to call you out: You should have shut down the_donald instead of amplifying it and its hate, racism, and violence. So much of what is happening now lies at your feet. You don't get to say BLM when reddit nurtures and monetizes white supremacy and hate all da…

I'm confused. T_D was shut down. The sub was quarantined, then hidden, and finally all the mods were removed and the sub was more-or-less locked. Does she mean that it should have been done sooner?

Should have been done in 2016.

Re: Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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Post by Sharlin »

jimbob45 wrote: post #23

Reddit mods wantonly abuse their power and I'm not even talking about politics. Ever been to r/science? 8/10 comments are deleted and those posts can't be read ever again (I'm understating that number, if anything). Honestly, half the reason I come here is because you can still view dead comments - censorship is a surefire way to get me to leave your community.

The best subreddits are those that are either a) very tightly moderated or b) obscure enough for the Eternal September not (yet) having happened to them. Most of the rest of the content is extremely low quality.

Re: Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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Post by tasty_freeze »

s9w wrote: post #68
tasty_freeze wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The man is married to a black woman and has a biracial child with her who will be seen as black by and large. It is a personal issue to him. But even if it wasn't a personal issue to him, I'm more disturbed by the number of people who 100% fail to engage with an issue and dismiss it as virtue signalling, as if a person couldn't authentically care about the issue. Yes, Ohanian is a rich guy, but by stepping away from…

Why does he have to say that he's married to a black woman. That he has a black child. That he is quitting. That he's hiring a BLACKKK person etc. Just do it man, don't make a wave. Give money and do all those things. How about hiring the best person for the job and not one that brings you the most goodie points right now. And again Reddit is about the least controversial thing on the net. It's ridiculous to paint it…

Why does he have to say it? Because there are jerks out there who will dismiss his actions as virtue signaling. He is stating it is personal and he is committed.

Do complain this much and call it virtue signaling if someone says they served in the armed forces and they love the flag?

Re: Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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Post by JoeSmithson »

hart_russell wrote: post #39
jimbob45 wrote: post #23

Reddit mods wantonly abuse their power and I'm not even talking about politics. Ever been to r/science? 8/10 comments are deleted and those posts can't be read ever again (I'm understating that number, if anything). Honestly, half the reason I come here is because you can still view dead comments - censorship is a surefire way to get me to leave your community.

Agreed. I hope hacker news doesn't become what reddit became. Contrary to the link, Reddit admins/mods actively police its content to be left leaning. Silencing/hiding content has the opposite intended effect on those being silenced, to those wondering why it's a bad thing.

The most popular mod teams are almost universally the ones with the most aggressive moderation policies. This include /r/the_donald.

The subreddits with laissez-faire moderation policies invariably get taken over by nasty interactions.

Re: Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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Post by harryh »

I think that resignation as a form of protest can be powerful when you are a junior member of a team and you think senior members are doing the wrong thing.

But when you are on the board of directors, you are the boss. In that case resignation is an abdication of leadership and a tacit admission that you have done a poor job.

Re: Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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Post by nromiun »

Reddit and 4Chan are the two sides of the same coin for me. Just their ideologies are different. At least the people on 4Chan are self aware about how toxic they are.

But the mods (at least on the popular subreddits) on reddit love to ban anything that isn't far left.

I don't mind echo chambers but the lack of self awareness always rubs me the wrong way.

Re: Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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Post by sfkdjf9j3j »

MuffinFlavored wrote: post #66
purephase wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, TD alone was huge in 2016-2017 and was a huge contributor to the dynamic we have in the world today. Ellen is 100% right here and Alex did absolutely nothing to address it. Good on her for publicly calling it out.

> Yeah, TD alone was huge in 2016-2017 and was a huge contributor to the dynamic we have in the world today Can you elaborate as to why? I'm not really sure how a subreddit is responsible for hate + violence + racism. How does freedom of speech/thought only work one way?

It was by far the largest online conservative community, and it funneled people into even more extreme communities.

I don't really get bringing up the freedom of speech angle here - r/the_donald has always aggressively deleted posts and banned users for expressing anything but complete loyalty to Donald Trump.

Re: Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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Post by s9w »

eganist wrote: post #73
s9w wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

r/relationship_advice is quite infamous for its extreme stance.

We've got a pretty straightforward stance, really. We don't tolerate intolerance, and mindful consent is a pre-requisite for all things. That's it. Amazing how much that weeds out. :)

You are well known to ban very good advice on a very specific topic - but we both know that even mentioning that would get me into trouble.

Re: Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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Post by ilikehurdles »

buttersbrian wrote: post #64
minimaxir wrote: post #3

Relevant context: recently, former Reddit CEO Ellen Pao called out Reddit for their policies after Reddit did a statement on Black Lives Matter: > I am obligated to call you out: You should have shut down the_donald instead of amplifying it and its hate, racism, and violence. So much of what is happening now lies at your feet. You don't get to say BLM when reddit nurtures and monetizes white supremacy and hate all da…

> So much of what is happening now lies at your feet. I just don't know how much of a responsibility reddit has in strong-arming sub-reddits that are communities, whether we like them or not. So I struggle with Ellen's indictment. It makes it seem like Reddit is a root level cause for where we are at today -- It's not, and is only a symptom. I believe it is unfair to say reddit, and their (somewhat) hands off approac…

Reddit, among other social media websites, has been used as an avenue for the radicalization of, particularly, young males.

Re: Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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Post by disposekinetics »

MarcellusDrum wrote: post #32

Reddit got too mainstream for its own good. The company desperately wants to become the new social media (think Facebook or Twitter), but many users are standing in the way, making the change from a discussion website to a social media website slow. What made me and many others use Reddit in the first place is that it didn't really matter who you are and what's your political and religious background, the only thing…

Do you know of any federated/distributed alternatives to reddit? Although, maybe the argument is we don't actually need a social media platform at all just RSS.
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