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Re: Slack Removed a Blog Post Showing How Police Use Its Tech

#51
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is what's becoming apparent right now, yes. I was more of an "a few bad apples" person until this week. But they're making it extremely clear that as a faction they have no regard for anything or anyone but their own power and bravado.

This principle incriminates the protesters just as much. There is widespread rationalization and support for the "few bad apples" perpetrating violence/looting/burning/rioting. There is very little condemnation. Lots of quoting MLK Jr. "rioting is the voice of the unheard" and yet MLK Jr. certainly did not practice or advocate violence. If the protesters can't regulate their own bad apples then how can they judge pol…

> This principle incriminates the protesters just as much.

Yeah but you know, one group _took oath to protect and serve_ and the other didn't.

It's like when Trump say some racist shit VS when your drunk uncle says the same thing, you can't put both sides to the same standards.

Everybody condemn rioters, but for some reasons a lot of people, including the president and many officials, manage to rationalise police brutality and if you don't see that as the obvious main issue you're most likely in the wrong.

> The outcome is easily predicted. Either the protesters take the ethical high ground or they lose.

This is the kind of thoughts I had when I was 15, I don't even know what to reply to that anymore.

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Also, why do people keep creating new accounts to post these very poorly thought comments ? Don't you have the balls to attach your speech to your semi public internet presence or are you just trolling ?

Re: Slack Removed a Blog Post Showing How Police Use Its Tech

#52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm guessing the CEO is not anti-money.

Also, he probably cant legally not let police departments use it, it's publically traded.

Why would being publicly traded keep them from choosing their customers?

Re: Slack Removed a Blog Post Showing How Police Use Its Tech

#53
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is what's becoming apparent right now, yes. I was more of an "a few bad apples" person until this week. But they're making it extremely clear that as a faction they have no regard for anything or anyone but their own power and bravado.

This principle incriminates the protesters just as much. There is widespread rationalization and support for the "few bad apples" perpetrating violence/looting/burning/rioting. There is very little condemnation. Lots of quoting MLK Jr. "rioting is the voice of the unheard" and yet MLK Jr. certainly did not practice or advocate violence. If the protesters can't regulate their own bad apples then how can they judge pol…

Unless you're one of those people with interesting beliefs about George Soros, no one is hiring, training and arming the protesters.

Anyone can become a protester by showing up with a mask and a brick in a sock, while the police force is an actual organisation with rules and plans.

Your comparison is very flawed.

Re: Slack Removed a Blog Post Showing How Police Use Its Tech

#54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep. The police seem to be caught in us-vs-them tribalism where police are the us, and them is the citizenry that they are supposed to serve.

Yeah, and then they also manage to convince themselves (and their supporters) that they're the victims, because they do dangerous work/their colleagues get shot, and the "they" they are facing are all dangerous Jason Bourne-esque assassins...

I recently have been learning how deadly Policing is in comparison to other jobs and it came as a surprise to me: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/01/28/chart...

Re: Slack Removed a Blog Post Showing How Police Use Its Tech

#55
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A few years ago I would've thought thought that was an overreaction (assuming police were just using it as customers, and not something like surveillance). This week, I no longer feel that way.

Honest foreigner question: are all US police that "stinky" that any association with them is now bad, or is it an overreaction? Surely there are good police departments, ones that work with the community and not against them? But maybe I'm not seeing it from the perspective of those black employees...

I would say most American citizens are fearful(or at least shy of) of the police, avoid interacting with them if possible and generally have a disdain for how they operate. Not to say they are not recognized as necessary, most just don't like their tactics and their "code" of protecting one another. Basically you never know if you are going to get a good cop or a bad one, so you just avoid them all. Likewise anyone supporting them is seem as possibly supporting their questionable use of force and other bad practices.

Re: Slack Removed a Blog Post Showing How Police Use Its Tech

#56

I don’t get it. Are we now advocating that police is overall more of a force of evil than good? Legitimate question.

I watched a video today of a 75-year old man being shoved by police for something that I can in no way defend. He fell backwards and blood started leaking from his head while he fell unconscious. No officer even attempted to render aid.

I have watched a video of a SWAT team breaking into a man's home and murdering him point-blank because he was holding a golf club for the crime of using naturally occurring plants and chemicals. No charges filed against any officer. Even though trained for combat, apparently their life was in mortal danger.

I have been personally threatened with arrest by police numerous times for the "criminal" offense of not following their exact instruction or being in an angry disposition for extremely minor offenses. If you want me to be peaceful, why are representatives of The State negotiating with me using violence?

Yes. This is evil.

Re: Slack Removed a Blog Post Showing How Police Use Its Tech

#57

I don’t get it. Are we now advocating that police is overall more of a force of evil than good? Legitimate question.

Dave Chappelle had a bit that went something like this: > Honey, did you see this? - Apparently, the Police have been beating up negroes like hotcakes! The special he mentioned this joke was aired in 2000 . I bring this up because it highlights that for some people the police haven't been a force of good for a long time, and smartphones and social media are forcing people to confront that fact. There has been many ar…

"Racism is not getting worse, it's getting filmed." — Will Smith

Re: Slack Removed a Blog Post Showing How Police Use Its Tech

#58
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A few years ago I would've thought thought that was an overreaction (assuming police were just using it as customers, and not something like surveillance). This week, I no longer feel that way.

Honest foreigner question: are all US police that "stinky" that any association with them is now bad, or is it an overreaction? Surely there are good police departments, ones that work with the community and not against them? But maybe I'm not seeing it from the perspective of those black employees...

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Re: Slack Removed a Blog Post Showing How Police Use Its Tech

#59

I don’t get it. Are we now advocating that police is overall more of a force of evil than good? Legitimate question.

https://old.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/gwxsl0/an_...

https://old.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/gx20pi/lapd_shoots_ho...

https://old.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/gwzrap/this...

https://old.reddit.com/r/ActualPublicFreakouts/comments/gwvk...

After seeing things like this (hell, these are some of the tamer videos I've seen in the past week), I'm not sure how anybody can seriously still support the police. Police as a concept is absolutely necessary in a civilized society. But the police that the US has? They're nothing but state-sanctioned terrorists.

Re: Slack Removed a Blog Post Showing How Police Use Its Tech

#60
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is what's becoming apparent right now, yes. I was more of an "a few bad apples" person until this week. But they're making it extremely clear that as a faction they have no regard for anything or anyone but their own power and bravado.

This principle incriminates the protesters just as much. There is widespread rationalization and support for the "few bad apples" perpetrating violence/looting/burning/rioting. There is very little condemnation. Lots of quoting MLK Jr. "rioting is the voice of the unheard" and yet MLK Jr. certainly did not practice or advocate violence. If the protesters can't regulate their own bad apples then how can they judge pol…

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