More mental gymnastics and gyrations to justify muzzling the opposing narrative.
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Mark Zuckerberg Is an Arbiter of Truth–Whether He Likes It or Not
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#12Whether or not you think that this is OK, let's at least agree that fake Facebook postings are a big deal. There's a reason why Russia worked hard to sway people's minds for the 2016 election.
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#13I wonder if people will change their views on Facebook censorship if Zuckerberg and Facebook drift to the right?
People have changed their politics as they have gotten older, before.
All of a sudden, if Zuckerberg comes out wearing a MAGA hat, will people be so excited about him being the “arbiter of truth” or will they suddenly be talking about “free speech”?
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#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
If the opposing narritive is propaganda or hatred, who’s doing the mental gymnastics here?
What is considered propaganda or hatred has become increasingly subjective
No it hasn't. Propaganda and hatred has just become more sophisticated and super-charged by new tools (social media, Internet etc.) in order to maximize it's spread among the community. These new tools also allow bigots to self-organize, privately in ways never before possible.
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#15Even if I were to condone censorship, I do think that in any case announcements by the government are special. Trump's form may be off, it might not look official, but absent other more formal press releases etc., this is as official as it gets.
And such announcements do need to reach the citizens of the affected nation/state/area, because they do directly influence people's lives, health, the society and the state. Any company censoring those better be damn sure that that censorship won't have any adverse effects on anyone...
On the other hand, if the announcement were too provocative/evil/illegal, there are ways in a democracy to hold the wrongdoer responsible. This is not Facebook's or any company's task.
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#16"We must demand that he perform that role in the best possible way, minimizing the toxic speech posted by his customers."
No, we don't. I disagree. An ueber capitalist is not better in judging what is good or bad then a random bum. Perhaps he is even worse in doing so. You don't become billionaire by being such a nice and good guy.
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#18The only concession I want from the pro-censorship crowd is that they oppose democracy. If you want unaccountable private social media corporations to be the arbiters of what is allowed to be discussed so be it, but just admit that you hate democracy and that you are a die hard technocrat.
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#19More mental gymnastics and gyrations to justify muzzling the opposing narrative.
People are clamoring for facebook to censor, mostly because they think that facebook will censor in their political favor
The real problem is that ~40% of America supports/votes for the POTUS, following him on social media, re-shares his memes, etc.
People are looking to generally open communications platforms like Facebook and asking them to censor, but if they carried their logic to its conclusion, the President’s emails, texts, mobile Apps, and press releases should all be censored or blacklisted by communications providers.
If the president sent out content similar to his tweets through a Trump 2020 campaign app on the apple store and android store, should Apple / google remove the app from the store? Should they build in a filter in chrome and Safari to block access to the trump 2020 campaign website?
Where does this logically end?
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
People are clamoring for facebook to censor, mostly because they think that facebook will censor in their political favor
The real problem is that ~40% of America supports/votes for the POTUS, following him on social media, re-shares his memes, etc. People are looking to generally open communications platforms like Facebook and asking them to censor, but if they carried their logic to its conclusion, the President’s emails, texts, mobile Apps, and press releases should all be censored or blacklisted by communications providers. If the p…
The real problem is that you refuse to take people you disagree with seriously. You keep fucking lying about them, you keep pushing people towards their side by being an absolute fucking cunt. Just stop. It's not helping.