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Re: Mental Wealth

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Post by novoid »

austincheney wrote: post #53
esotericn wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you ever, individually, faced a crisis? Reached a point at which - something you've been slowly working on for years - the progress just isn't quick enough, it feels hopeless, and then you lash out? Via anger, sadness, depression - whatever?

> and then you lash out? As an Army guy with a family embarking on his fifth overseas deployment spontaneous bursts of rage are frowned upon. I don’t do that. I have gotten comfortable to sparse, tiny, lonely living conditions and learned to regulate my mental health according to the expectations at hand. > the progress just isn't quick enough I suspect the majority of people engaging in riots, and possibly the prote…

When I read about your overseas deployment, something goes off in my chest - about which country you're going to be deployed to and what horrors await the people there. It is not about you, but about the historical imperialism America has been perpetrating over rest of the world, starting in 1899 with the Philippines.

And I've read enough history to wonder why and how the black population has suffered so much injustice for so long. You ask "why now" and you question their motives. But the only explanation I could come up with - for why they suffered in silence for the last few decades - was that the enemy was too formidable. Yet there is a breaking point, and George Floyd probably was it. I'm not hopeful that there will be any change though. On the contrary the American system will make black people pay, in a long, insidious, and institutional manner.

Re: Mental Wealth

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Post by pjc50 »

austincheney wrote: post #53
esotericn wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you ever, individually, faced a crisis? Reached a point at which - something you've been slowly working on for years - the progress just isn't quick enough, it feels hopeless, and then you lash out? Via anger, sadness, depression - whatever?

> and then you lash out? As an Army guy with a family embarking on his fifth overseas deployment spontaneous bursts of rage are frowned upon. I don’t do that. I have gotten comfortable to sparse, tiny, lonely living conditions and learned to regulate my mental health according to the expectations at hand. > the progress just isn't quick enough I suspect the majority of people engaging in riots, and possibly the prote…

> As an Army guy with a family embarking on his fifth overseas deployment

Seen any riots in Iraq? What did you think the Arab Spring was?

(Conversely I suspect the people in the protests are almost certainly all politically engaged and at least vote. The previous political engagement of BLM has not achieved anywhere near the same results as the protests have. The protests appear to be the only way to get police charged for murder even when there is clear video evidence.)

Re: Mental Wealth

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Post by noelwelsh »

austincheney wrote: post #82
noelwelsh wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trying to find a single explanation for the motivations of a large group of people will lead to overly simplistic explanations. In the case of the protests I expect people are turning out for at least a few different reasons: * this is an issue they are concerned about, and now there seems to be sufficient attention on it to actually cause change; * this is an issue they are concerned about, and they have nothing els…

I hear what you are saying but it seems insufficient. You are suppling a carefully considered highly cognitive set of decisions as answers to qualify non-cognitive group convergence. For example anger/dissent and group convergence are completely orthogonal. This is probably a form of conservatism, which is logical considerations as evidence to qualify behaviors after the fact. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conserva…

I'm using my own experience attending protests. As someone who is concerned about a number of issues, but not sufficiently concerned to base my life around those issues, I'm willing to show up when it seems my presence will contribute to an effort large enough to be noted. My observations of others at these events is that there are many different motivations. Some people base their identity and social life around protesting. Some people are there for related but distinct causes (e.g. when protesting the Iraq invasion we marched ahead of a group who carried signs calling for Palestine to be freed). Some show up to take selfies to show their friends.

Re: Mental Wealth

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Post by vgchh »

Recently I had an epiphany and I felt as if I had cracked the code to living a good life - 1. Exercise everyday 2. Eat and drink clean.

As cliche as it sounds it felt like if I took care of these two things, everything else will take care of itself. Since last 15 days, I feel reinvigorated once again as I focus on these two things. There is a long way to go to fully undo all the damage, but I feel I am on track.

Re: Mental Wealth

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Post by wukerplank »

vgchh wrote: post #94

Recently I had an epiphany and I felt as if I had cracked the code to living a good life - 1. Exercise everyday 2. Eat and drink clean. As cliche as it sounds it felt like if I took care of these two things, everything else will take care of itself. Since last 15 days, I feel reinvigorated once again as I focus on these two things. There is a long way to go to fully undo all the damage, but I feel I am on track.

Made me feel like an idiot when I saw how well this works. Physician have been banging this drum for decades. Exercise, drink enough water and eat clean.

Re: Mental Wealth

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Post by zdw »

cousin_it wrote: post #72
jordwest wrote: post #3

In this article the author covers a few areas to consider in managing mental health: Sleep, Diet, Exercise, Stress Management, Exogenous Compounds (from coffee to melatonin to Prozac, and anything in between) These are certainly important factors, and I think we need to look much more broadly at underlying factors than just these (or just drugs). I've been reading about mental health issues for years with my own ups…

> In the book he describes the ways modern life has disconnected us from a lot of what humans find meaningful, and given that it's not surprising that rates of depression and anxiety have skyrocketed. Yeah. See Yvain's excellent review of "Empire of the Summer Moon": All of the white people who joined Indian tribes loved it and refused to go back to white civilization. All the Indians who joined white civilization ha…

Having an abundance of natural resources that are easily accessible at a low tech level seems like it's a very large precondition to making this work.

Sounds like someone drank the "Noble savage" koolaid in writing that.

Re: Mental Wealth

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Post by 86J8oyZv »

vgchh wrote: post #94

Recently I had an epiphany and I felt as if I had cracked the code to living a good life - 1. Exercise everyday 2. Eat and drink clean. As cliche as it sounds it felt like if I took care of these two things, everything else will take care of itself. Since last 15 days, I feel reinvigorated once again as I focus on these two things. There is a long way to go to fully undo all the damage, but I feel I am on track.

This really is so much of it! I started this journey a couple of years ago. A few more steps I've found since:

- Clean the spaces you are in, bedroom, kitchen, office, living room, etc - Learn to communicate with an open heart. The book "Nonviolent Communication" is a great resource. - Be careful of your thoughts. Don't even joke negatively about yourself. It really does affect you even if you're not aware.

Re: Mental Wealth

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Post by code4tee »

vgchh wrote: post #94

Recently I had an epiphany and I felt as if I had cracked the code to living a good life - 1. Exercise everyday 2. Eat and drink clean. As cliche as it sounds it felt like if I took care of these two things, everything else will take care of itself. Since last 15 days, I feel reinvigorated once again as I focus on these two things. There is a long way to go to fully undo all the damage, but I feel I am on track.

This is absolutely at the foundation. Would add to that get regular sleep and enough of it.

At some level our bodies are like machines. Feed it crappy fuel (food) and don’t give it good maintenance (exercise and sleep) and it won’t run well.

Re: Mental Wealth

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Post by goodcanadian »

kamarg wrote: post #74
thaumasiotes wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Have you even seen a riot started out of nothing? Just for fun? It's a pretty well-known phenomenon. You hold a sports riot when your team wins , not when it loses.

I don't think that's a safe statement to make. See Vancouver in 2011 ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Vancouver_Stanley_Cup_rio... ).

It's pretty clear that the instigators planned to try to start a riot either way.

Re: Mental Wealth

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Post by lotsofpulp »

vgchh wrote: post #94

Recently I had an epiphany and I felt as if I had cracked the code to living a good life - 1. Exercise everyday 2. Eat and drink clean. As cliche as it sounds it felt like if I took care of these two things, everything else will take care of itself. Since last 15 days, I feel reinvigorated once again as I focus on these two things. There is a long way to go to fully undo all the damage, but I feel I am on track.

I found the motto “sleep right, eat right, excercise right” (in that order) to be true.
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